Notices
1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks Discuss the Fat Fendered and Classic Ford Trucks

Certified and EZ Wire

 
  #1  
Old 04-26-2016, 06:02 AM
pbsdaddy's Avatar
pbsdaddy
pbsdaddy is offline
FTE Chapter Leader
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Central Delaware
Posts: 3,802
pbsdaddy has a brilliant futurepbsdaddy has a brilliant futurepbsdaddy has a brilliant futurepbsdaddy has a brilliant futurepbsdaddy has a brilliant futurepbsdaddy has a brilliant futurepbsdaddy has a brilliant futurepbsdaddy has a brilliant futurepbsdaddy has a brilliant futurepbsdaddy has a brilliant futurepbsdaddy has a brilliant future
Certified and EZ Wire

I am putting the truck back together and have am converting from 6 to 12 volt and doing a complete rewire. I am using the EZ wire kit and Certified Auto conversion kit. Has anyone else gone this route. I am having difficulty understanding just what wire(s) go to the Alternator. The certified instructions are for the original wires and the EZ are for theirs. Just to complicate it, the alt is a GM style, one wire.
 
  #2  
Old 04-26-2016, 06:10 AM
JimG1098's Avatar
JimG1098
JimG1098 is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Eastern shore,Salisbur,MD
Posts: 1,485
JimG1098 is a splendid one to beholdJimG1098 is a splendid one to beholdJimG1098 is a splendid one to beholdJimG1098 is a splendid one to beholdJimG1098 is a splendid one to beholdJimG1098 is a splendid one to behold
What is a Certified Auto conversion kit. Not familiar. I did a total rewire also, mayby I can help you
 
  #3  
Old 04-26-2016, 09:44 AM
smallello's Avatar
smallello
smallello is offline
Elder User
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: NW Valley AZ
Posts: 936
smallello has a great reputation on FTE.smallello has a great reputation on FTE.smallello has a great reputation on FTE.smallello has a great reputation on FTE.smallello has a great reputation on FTE.
I also used a 21 circuit EZ wire and a one wire alternator. No regulator so all of those wires go away. If I remember correctly there is an exciter wire you won't need. I don't remember if there were others. There really is only one wire to the alt.
 
  #4  
Old 04-26-2016, 02:47 PM
pbsdaddy's Avatar
pbsdaddy
pbsdaddy is offline
FTE Chapter Leader
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Central Delaware
Posts: 3,802
pbsdaddy has a brilliant futurepbsdaddy has a brilliant futurepbsdaddy has a brilliant futurepbsdaddy has a brilliant futurepbsdaddy has a brilliant futurepbsdaddy has a brilliant futurepbsdaddy has a brilliant futurepbsdaddy has a brilliant futurepbsdaddy has a brilliant futurepbsdaddy has a brilliant futurepbsdaddy has a brilliant future
Thanks, Smallello. That's what I'm thinking, but, I haven't convinced myself yet.


Certified is Certified Auto Electric http://www.ebay.com/itm/311548507132?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

If the link works, the kit will be shown.
 
  #5  
Old 04-26-2016, 05:24 PM
ALBUQ F-1's Avatar
ALBUQ F-1
ALBUQ F-1 is online now
Post Fiend
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: NM
Posts: 24,136
ALBUQ F-1 has a superb reputationALBUQ F-1 has a superb reputationALBUQ F-1 has a superb reputationALBUQ F-1 has a superb reputationALBUQ F-1 has a superb reputationALBUQ F-1 has a superb reputationALBUQ F-1 has a superb reputationALBUQ F-1 has a superb reputationALBUQ F-1 has a superb reputationALBUQ F-1 has a superb reputationALBUQ F-1 has a superb reputation
I got my alternator and the slingshot mount from Certified more than 10 years ago, and have had zero problems with it.

I'm not sure why so many people have trouble with one-wires, it's very simple. The one wire (alternator output) goes to the circuit breaker exactly where the generator regulator output used to go. (You should include a section of fusible link in that wire) You can run it directly to the battery or to the battery cable on the solenoid, but then your ammeter won't work correctly. I'd also run an equally stout wire from the grounding lug on the alternator case to wherever you have all your grounds run.
 
  #6  
Old 04-26-2016, 05:46 PM
pbsdaddy's Avatar
pbsdaddy
pbsdaddy is offline
FTE Chapter Leader
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Central Delaware
Posts: 3,802
pbsdaddy has a brilliant futurepbsdaddy has a brilliant futurepbsdaddy has a brilliant futurepbsdaddy has a brilliant futurepbsdaddy has a brilliant futurepbsdaddy has a brilliant futurepbsdaddy has a brilliant futurepbsdaddy has a brilliant futurepbsdaddy has a brilliant futurepbsdaddy has a brilliant futurepbsdaddy has a brilliant future
Ross, are you saying the circuit breakers on the instrument panel? And a fuse on a line going to a circuit breaker? The EZ wire kit runs everything through a fuse box, BTW.
My confusion comes from the Certified instructions saying to run two wires together into one position at the back of the alt. To add to that confusion, I requested help from EZ wire and received this:
"my alt power to the one connection and the bypass from the alternator to the big post of starter"
I'm sure the "my" is a typo, but is it "try" and just what is the "bypass". I knew going in my confidence level was low, but that didn't help at all.
 
  #7  
Old 04-26-2016, 06:26 PM
ALBUQ F-1's Avatar
ALBUQ F-1
ALBUQ F-1 is online now
Post Fiend
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: NM
Posts: 24,136
ALBUQ F-1 has a superb reputationALBUQ F-1 has a superb reputationALBUQ F-1 has a superb reputationALBUQ F-1 has a superb reputationALBUQ F-1 has a superb reputationALBUQ F-1 has a superb reputationALBUQ F-1 has a superb reputationALBUQ F-1 has a superb reputationALBUQ F-1 has a superb reputationALBUQ F-1 has a superb reputationALBUQ F-1 has a superb reputation
I think they may be saying to jumper one of the two lugs on the back of the alternator, that's the cheapo way to make a 3-wire into a 1-wire. I'm surprised they would do that on a kit described as a 1-wire. See below

Without knowing how EZ Wire says to do things, I'd say to run the alternator output to the battery with a fusible link, and run power from the solenoid (battery hot) to the new fusebox.

 
  #8  
Old 04-26-2016, 07:40 PM
pbsdaddy's Avatar
pbsdaddy
pbsdaddy is offline
FTE Chapter Leader
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Central Delaware
Posts: 3,802
pbsdaddy has a brilliant futurepbsdaddy has a brilliant futurepbsdaddy has a brilliant futurepbsdaddy has a brilliant futurepbsdaddy has a brilliant futurepbsdaddy has a brilliant futurepbsdaddy has a brilliant futurepbsdaddy has a brilliant futurepbsdaddy has a brilliant futurepbsdaddy has a brilliant futurepbsdaddy has a brilliant future
It's worth a try. At this point, the worst I can do is short the battery and start a fire!
 
  #9  
Old 04-26-2016, 07:57 PM
ALBUQ F-1's Avatar
ALBUQ F-1
ALBUQ F-1 is online now
Post Fiend
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: NM
Posts: 24,136
ALBUQ F-1 has a superb reputationALBUQ F-1 has a superb reputationALBUQ F-1 has a superb reputationALBUQ F-1 has a superb reputationALBUQ F-1 has a superb reputationALBUQ F-1 has a superb reputationALBUQ F-1 has a superb reputationALBUQ F-1 has a superb reputationALBUQ F-1 has a superb reputationALBUQ F-1 has a superb reputationALBUQ F-1 has a superb reputation
Most true 1-wires don't even have those two terminals. The one I got from Certified doesn't. Worth asking them why yours has them.
 
  #10  
Old 04-27-2016, 12:04 AM
smallello's Avatar
smallello
smallello is offline
Elder User
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: NW Valley AZ
Posts: 936
smallello has a great reputation on FTE.smallello has a great reputation on FTE.smallello has a great reputation on FTE.smallello has a great reputation on FTE.smallello has a great reputation on FTE.
Mine had a cover over the terminals. I did not remove the cover or install the jumper. Just one wire to the starter solenoid.
 
  #11  
Old 04-27-2016, 05:24 AM
pbsdaddy's Avatar
pbsdaddy
pbsdaddy is offline
FTE Chapter Leader
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Central Delaware
Posts: 3,802
pbsdaddy has a brilliant futurepbsdaddy has a brilliant futurepbsdaddy has a brilliant futurepbsdaddy has a brilliant futurepbsdaddy has a brilliant futurepbsdaddy has a brilliant futurepbsdaddy has a brilliant futurepbsdaddy has a brilliant futurepbsdaddy has a brilliant futurepbsdaddy has a brilliant futurepbsdaddy has a brilliant future
Yes, just looked to make sure. Mine is the same. One plug/terminal. I don't understand the comment, from EZ wire. It must be either I didn't get my point across or they misunderstood.
Smallello, your wire runs from the solenoid to the alt? Then from the solenoid to the ignition switch? Through the Hall effect loop, I assume?
 
  #12  
Old 04-27-2016, 07:36 AM
oldmerc's Avatar
oldmerc
oldmerc is offline
oldmerc
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Edmonton,Alberta
Posts: 1,535
oldmerc is a name known to alloldmerc is a name known to alloldmerc is a name known to alloldmerc is a name known to alloldmerc is a name known to alloldmerc is a name known to all
Okay now I'm curious , to what hall effect loop do you refer
 
  #13  
Old 04-27-2016, 09:50 AM
ALBUQ F-1's Avatar
ALBUQ F-1
ALBUQ F-1 is online now
Post Fiend
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: NM
Posts: 24,136
ALBUQ F-1 has a superb reputationALBUQ F-1 has a superb reputationALBUQ F-1 has a superb reputationALBUQ F-1 has a superb reputationALBUQ F-1 has a superb reputationALBUQ F-1 has a superb reputationALBUQ F-1 has a superb reputationALBUQ F-1 has a superb reputationALBUQ F-1 has a superb reputationALBUQ F-1 has a superb reputationALBUQ F-1 has a superb reputation
He means the ammeter loop
 
  #14  
Old 04-27-2016, 01:08 PM
EffieTrucker's Avatar
EffieTrucker
EffieTrucker is offline
Kentucky Chapter Member
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Eastern Kentucky
Posts: 2,911
EffieTrucker has a brilliant futureEffieTrucker has a brilliant futureEffieTrucker has a brilliant futureEffieTrucker has a brilliant futureEffieTrucker has a brilliant futureEffieTrucker has a brilliant futureEffieTrucker has a brilliant futureEffieTrucker has a brilliant futureEffieTrucker has a brilliant futureEffieTrucker has a brilliant futureEffieTrucker has a brilliant future
Originally Posted by ALBUQ F-1 View Post
Most true 1-wires don't even have those two terminals. The one I got from Certified doesn't. Worth asking them why yours has them.
Same here. My "one wire" from Certified only has the one connection.
 
  #15  
Old 04-27-2016, 10:26 PM
smallello's Avatar
smallello
smallello is offline
Elder User
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: NW Valley AZ
Posts: 936
smallello has a great reputation on FTE.smallello has a great reputation on FTE.smallello has a great reputation on FTE.smallello has a great reputation on FTE.smallello has a great reputation on FTE.
Originally Posted by pbsdaddy View Post
Smallello, your wire runs from the solenoid to the alt? Then from the solenoid to the ignition switch? Through the Hall effect loop, I assume?
It runs from the alternator to the battery side of the solenoid. The same side the battery connects to.
 

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: Certified and EZ Wire


Contact Us - About Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

© 2019 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands

We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.