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Old Apr 12, 2016 | 09:01 PM
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2006 F-250 6.0l,Auto, 175,xxx mi


When I turn the key to on, I hear the vacuum pump cycle (passenger side fender), but don't hear the glow plugs or injectors cycle. Glow plug light comes on and stays on for 30secs. Wrench light comes on initially, but goes off after 3 secs, but then comes back on after about 8-10 seconds. When the wrench light comes on, I hear a click under the dash and my cab lights go off.


When I turn the key to start, nothing happens. If I jump the starter, engine turns over, but doesn't start. I have check numerous fuses, disconnected the fan clutch, tried moving the shifting lever to neutral, wiggled wires around the FICM/PCM/GPCM with no success.


I tried checking for DTC codes, but my scanner (300 reader) doesn't get any power. I have checked my light, it has power.


Twice before, the truck failed to start like this, but after removing & inspecting fuses/relays (all were good), it started back up. Also, occasionally the truck would stall, (just like someone turned the key off), but would start right backup. But when it stalled, the glow plug light would illuminate for a second,then go off.


Own truck for 8 months, replaced the batteries & injectors 6 months ago. Very light puff of smoke when starting up otherwise ran well when shut off.


Any suggestions on how to proceed would be appreciated? My first diesel so I may need some extra details. Thank you.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2016 | 09:21 PM
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What kind of scanner are you using?
 
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Old Apr 12, 2016 | 09:24 PM
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Innova is the brand, don't remember the model at the moment.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2016 | 09:35 PM
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Have you ever used it to check dtc on your diesel before? Some scanners can't read trouble codes on diesels. With out more info i would lean to towards a FICM or PCM .but thats just a guess with out more info
 
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Old Apr 12, 2016 | 09:36 PM
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Do you have power to the Cigar lighter? It's the same fuse for the OBD2 port.
Also have you checked the under hood fuse box?

I'll post the PDF for the fuse/rely boxes.
I also added the Electronic Engine Controls.



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Old Apr 12, 2016 | 09:37 PM
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Innova is the brand, don't remember the model at the moment.
Not sure but I think that one does not read DTC's on the 6.0 so well.
But that is the place to start after fuses and relays.


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Old Apr 12, 2016 | 09:45 PM
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I can't honestly recall if I have.
The shop that diagnosed the injectors mentioned the FICM voltage was a little low. But after the injector replacement, it ran well so I didn't replace it. I called to ask if this new issue could be related to the FICM (finally giving out) and they said no.
The PCM also crossed my mind, but I wasn't sure. I don't want to replace parts if I don't have to.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2016 | 09:49 PM
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Yahiko: "Do you have power to the Cigar lighter? It's the same fuse for the OBD2 port.
Also have you checked the under hood fuse box?"



Yes, I have power to the lighter. I also checked fuses under the hood.


Is it possible to test the relays, rather than trying to just replace them?
 
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Old Apr 12, 2016 | 09:53 PM
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Check out what Yahiko posted see if that helps. If you are gonna turn wrenchs yourself the first thing to get is either a scan gauge II or if you have a android based smart phone for 5 bucks you can download torque pro and buy elm327 blue tooth dongle from ebay. You can scan your own truck
 
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Old Apr 12, 2016 | 10:07 PM
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Yahiko: "Do you have power to the Cigar lighter? It's the same fuse for the OBD2 port.
Also have you checked the under hood fuse box?"



Yes, I have power to the lighter. I also checked fuses under the hood.


Is it possible to test the relays, rather than trying to just replace them?
Relays are easy to test.
Here is a Youtube video on testing a relay.



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Old Apr 13, 2016 | 01:44 PM
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So I went out and re-checked all the fuses & tested the relays, all were good.


So next, I pulled off the fuse panel to check the wires and I found 1 plug not fully plugged in. I snapped it back in and that fixed my problem.


Glad it was simple, but I hate the dumb stuff like that.



Thank you for your help and the information, devils toy and Yahiko.
 
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Old Apr 13, 2016 | 02:24 PM
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Very good to hear you got it fixed and Thank You for reporting back
on the "HOW" you did it. That may just help someone else in the same spot.

Drive safe, Keep the rubber side down.




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