rekey ignition door locks same key
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So when you do this and narrow it down it looks like it comes down to the DL1 and the DL3. In the previous post it shows the DL3 and his key is "keyed right." The box the lock set came in that I ordered says DL3, but the locks and keys were "keyed left." Even better, the pictures for both lock sets, the only ones a saw that had the correct actuator, both show "keyed right" keys. So WTF?
The replacement set that Rock is sending should be here Friday so we'll see I guess.
The replacement set that Rock is sending should be here Friday so we'll see I guess.
Sure sounds like you got the incorrect part inside the correct box. Hopefully the replacement is what you need.
If no luck, you can also get the locks locally through NAPA, Autozone, etc.:
https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/MPEDLK22SB
https://www.autozone.com/electrical-...5490/12491_0_0
If not in stock, you can order for pickup at your local store. Select the option to pay in store, and you can verify the parts received are correct before paying. I simply searched their website for "DL3", the part number on the Standard brand locks I ordered through Amazon several years ago (post #13).
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From: Duncan, SC
If no luck, you can also get the locks locally through NAPA, Autozone, etc.:
https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/MPEDLK22SB
https://www.autozone.com/electrical-...5490/12491_0_0
https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/MPEDLK22SB
https://www.autozone.com/electrical-...5490/12491_0_0
Thanks for those links, Karl! Looks like an Autozone about 15 minutes away has them in stock so I'm going to head over there tomorrow or Monday and take a look at what they've got.
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So I'm at a complete loss here, something has obviously changed. The first two I ordered from Rock Auto showed the same key pattern as the ignition lock but both arrived with the opposite pattern, the same as the current door key is. These are produced by SMP and on their own website the photo shows the key pattern as being the same as the ignition lock.
So I hit the links that Karl provided and Autozone had them in stock not too far from me. They are produced by LOCKSmart, the photo shows the key pattern as being the same as the ignition lock so I figured this would be the one. Nope! An hour round trip only to find that this set from LOCKSmart is also keyed opposite the ignition lock, the same as the existing door keys.
So WTF? I'm going to try and contact SMP directly to get an answer on this but it appears that something has definitely changed with these locks in the last few years.
So I hit the links that Karl provided and Autozone had them in stock not too far from me. They are produced by LOCKSmart, the photo shows the key pattern as being the same as the ignition lock so I figured this would be the one. Nope! An hour round trip only to find that this set from LOCKSmart is also keyed opposite the ignition lock, the same as the existing door keys.
So WTF? I'm going to try and contact SMP directly to get an answer on this but it appears that something has definitely changed with these locks in the last few years.
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Got a response from SMP directly today, apparently they did in fact change the DL-3 part number to the "keyed left" or round key style but didn't update their photos. Guessing every online supplier is in the same situation.
I asked them when and why they changed it but haven't heard back. And asked if they had an alternate part number that's "keyed right" like our ignition keys. Impossible to trust their catalog now knowing the photos are likely wrong.
I'll post if I get any additional info, but it looks like this little hack may be dead unless you can snag the locks from the JY somehow.
I asked them when and why they changed it but haven't heard back. And asked if they had an alternate part number that's "keyed right" like our ignition keys. Impossible to trust their catalog now knowing the photos are likely wrong.
I'll post if I get any additional info, but it looks like this little hack may be dead unless you can snag the locks from the JY somehow.
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Got a response from SMP directly today, apparently they did in fact change the DL-3 part number to the "keyed left" or round key style but didn't update their photos. Guessing every online supplier is in the same situation.
I asked them when and why they changed it but haven't heard back. And asked if they had an alternate part number that's "keyed right" like our ignition keys. Impossible to trust their catalog now knowing the photos are likely wrong.
I'll post if I get any additional info, but it looks like this little hack may be dead unless you can snag the locks from the JY somehow.
I asked them when and why they changed it but haven't heard back. And asked if they had an alternate part number that's "keyed right" like our ignition keys. Impossible to trust their catalog now knowing the photos are likely wrong.
I'll post if I get any additional info, but it looks like this little hack may be dead unless you can snag the locks from the JY somehow.
What about some of the other part numbers like the square face unit ?
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Got a response from SMP directly today, apparently they did in fact change the DL-3 part number to the "keyed left" or round key style but didn't update their photos. Guessing every online supplier is in the same situation.
I asked them when and why they changed it but haven't heard back. And asked if they had an alternate part number that's "keyed right" like our ignition keys. Impossible to trust their catalog now knowing the photos are likely wrong.
I'll post if I get any additional info, but it looks like this little hack may be dead unless you can snag the locks from the JY somehow.
I asked them when and why they changed it but haven't heard back. And asked if they had an alternate part number that's "keyed right" like our ignition keys. Impossible to trust their catalog now knowing the photos are likely wrong.
I'll post if I get any additional info, but it looks like this little hack may be dead unless you can snag the locks from the JY somehow.
What about some of the other part numbers like the square face unit they would work.
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From: Duncan, SC
I ordered DL-1 which is listed for 79 and earlier vehicles that apparently only had one key. The photo shows right keyed but we'll see.
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From: Duncan, SC
So part number DL-1 which shows the keyed right pattern also shipped keyed left. I contacted RockAuto's customer support to find out if they have a part number that is keyed right, we'll see what they say.
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Do you have a set of cylinders that are keyed like your ignition key you have now(orientation that is). If you do, I bet you can take them apart and make the old cylinders you have work with the ignition lock you have. I did this one time on a 57 chevy I had. I took the cylinders apart, and several of the little brass pieces were the right ones, but in the wrong spots. And a couple of them I didn't have. I left those spots blank. I put them in the correct order to match my ignition key, and left the ones I didn't have blank. It worked perfectly.
Leaving some of them blank will give a person with another key a better chance of their key working, but do you think that would be a problem with these old trucks and someone maybe having a key and trying to use it to get in? Most thieves do not bother and just break the window.
Leaving some of them blank will give a person with another key a better chance of their key working, but do you think that would be a problem with these old trucks and someone maybe having a key and trying to use it to get in? Most thieves do not bother and just break the window.
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Do you have a set of cylinders that are keyed like your ignition key you have now(orientation that is). If you do, I bet you can take them apart and make the old cylinders you have work with the ignition lock you have. I did this one time on a 57 chevy I had. I took the cylinders apart, and several of the little brass pieces were the right ones, but in the wrong spots. And a couple of them I didn't have. I left those spots blank. I put them in the correct order to match my ignition key, and left the ones I didn't have blank. It worked perfectly.
Leaving some of them blank will give a person with another key a better chance of their key working, but do you think that would be a problem with these old trucks and someone maybe having a key and trying to use it to get in? Most thieves do not bother and just break the window.
Leaving some of them blank will give a person with another key a better chance of their key working, but do you think that would be a problem with these old trucks and someone maybe having a key and trying to use it to get in? Most thieves do not bother and just break the window.
Now Rock Auto is being difficult claiming that the key pattern being reversed from the photo in their product description is "cosmetic" and won't issue me a refund.
There are NOS door lock kits on eBay so if I can't find some at the junkyard I'll go that route.
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I can rekey them, I've done it before with motorcycles. The issue is that I can't get a cylinder with the same pattern as the ignition. At some point in the last few years SMP, the manufacturer for most of these locks, decided to stop making the door locks with the same key pattern as the ignition.
Now Rock Auto is being difficult claiming that the key pattern being reversed from the photo in their product description is "cosmetic" and won't issue me a refund.
There are NOS door lock kits on eBay so if I can't find some at the junkyard I'll go that route.
Now Rock Auto is being difficult claiming that the key pattern being reversed from the photo in their product description is "cosmetic" and won't issue me a refund.
There are NOS door lock kits on eBay so if I can't find some at the junkyard I'll go that route.
Cosmetic that is cute. That is a major function change that makes the item useless or the intended purpose. This is one I would not roll over on.
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I also contacted SMP directly to try and figure this out. They first addressed that the photo was indeed incorrect after a product change and apologized. When asked to clarify which part number would suit my application I got a brief lesson on the difference in Ford (and Chevy's like a give a crap) key sets over the years. Replied back with essentially "duh" and asked the question again.
Having worked for OEM's in the motorsports industry I'm guessing they cut the right keyed parts to save costs based on ordered volume and just didn't tell anyone.
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Give summit a call they have some with Ignition cylinder for pre column lock applications, pretty sure they will all the locks will be keyed right. PY1555 should do the trick. Or PY1556MT if you want the whole thing with ignition cylinder for locking column. For $35 more
https://www.summitracing.com/search/...-location/dash.
https://www.summitracing.com/search/...-location/dash.
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PY1555 should do the trick. Or PY1556MT if you want the whole thing with ignition cylinder for locking column. For $35 more
https://www.summitracing.com/search/...-location/dash.
https://www.summitracing.com/search/...-location/dash.