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Old Apr 13, 2016 | 05:41 PM
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If I remember correctly rear pinion angle is 4-5 degrees upward.
 
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Old Apr 13, 2016 | 05:58 PM
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Sounds about right. I was gonna say 2-3 at least.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2016 | 12:46 AM
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The car hade another motor and transmission originaly, it was the previos owner that changed it.. So i dident feel sure about the angles before the lowering either, thats why it wasent messured before.

Been in contact with spicer, and this is there response to my setup -

"Please see engineering comment below and attached calculation *
If I follow your layout we get
+1.5 + 3.5* - *4* = 1 degree so OK"

I get this to when writing the angles in there calculator..
http://spicerparts.com/calculators/driveline-operating-angle-calculator

As i understand it, spicer wants the first shaft with a small angle (1-1,5) down from the trannsmision, then have the pinion match the first shaft angle. And in that case i am quite close as i understand it, just 0.5 degress of on the pinion!?
 
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Old Apr 14, 2016 | 06:34 AM
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What engine/trans combo is in the truck?
 
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Old Apr 14, 2016 | 07:55 AM
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390 and c6, but i dont know what it and the drivshaft originaly comes from..
 
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Old Apr 14, 2016 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by orre_s86
390 and c6, but i dont know what it and the drivshaft originaly comes from..
Did the truck come with FE/C6 from the factory?
Long or short shaft C6?
 
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Old Apr 14, 2016 | 08:00 AM
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No it had a manual gearbox, engine i dont realyl know.. Dont know if its a long or short c6!? How long are they, whats the difference?
 
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Old Apr 14, 2016 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by orre_s86
No it had a manual gearbox, engine i dont realyl know.. Dont know if its a long or short c6!? How long are they, whats the difference?
Short shaft, the driveshaft has a bolt on output yoke. Long shaft has a slip yoke.
The VIN number will reveal what engine originally came in the truck.
If the truck did come with a C6, the perches are correct. The trans crossmember should be ok. Take an angle finder and measure the engine angle where the oil pan bolts to the block. Mirror this same angle for the pinion yoke.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2016 | 08:50 AM
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Okey, i have to check the win then..
The engine is in a 3 degress angle as you se in my sketch...

So you mean that the pinion angle was originaly 3 degress also then?
 
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Old Apr 14, 2016 | 09:20 AM
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Also, make sure you have the correct trans mount. I don't know if manual and auto used the same mount. Jeff or Bill can answer that.
Once you determine the engine has the correct perches and the trans mount is correct, mirror the engine angle at the pinion.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2016 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by instig8r63
Also, make sure you have the correct trans mount. I don't know if manual and auto used the same mount. Jeff or Bill can answer that.
Once you determine the engine has the correct perches and the trans mount is correct, mirror the engine angle at the pinion.
You called it Bobby. They are different. Including the crossmember. I don't know what is different about them. On the mounts it could only be the bolt pattern. The saddle retainers that go from bolt to bolt over the tranny mount for breakage protection are also different. On the crossmember it could be something minor so OP can use what he's got with shims or whatever.

68/72 F100/250...360/390...(4X2) with M/T..C5TZ6A023H crossmember (replaced by D5TZ6A023A then D6TZ6A023A)and C5TZ6068A mount.
68/72 F100/250...360/390...(4X2) with A/T..C8TZ6A023A crossmember and C6TZ6068F mount.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2016 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by JEFFFAFA
You called it Bobby. They are different. Including the crossmember. I don't know what is different about them. On the mounts it could only be the bolt pattern. The saddle retainers that go from bolt to bolt over the tranny mount for breakage protection are also different. On the crossmember it could be something minor so OP can use what he's got with shims or whatever.

68/72 F100/250...360/390...(4X2) with M/T..C5TZ6A023H crossmember (replaced by D5TZ6A023A then D6TZ6A023A)and C5TZ6068A mount.
68/72 F100/250...360/390...(4X2) with A/T..C8TZ6A023A crossmember and C6TZ6068F mount.
Thanks for the help, buddy
 
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Old Apr 15, 2016 | 01:39 AM
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It has a bolted crossmember, so it has at least been taken of som time before, or mayby swaped along with the transmission.. The mount is correct for the c6. Do any of you know what angle you got on your first driveshaft?
 
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Old Apr 15, 2016 | 02:13 AM
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Every truck had a bolted crossmember. How else would you get things dropped down?
 
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Old Apr 15, 2016 | 02:22 AM
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Thought they where riveted, gearbox comming och in from the front....
 
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