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Old Apr 1, 2016 | 11:14 AM
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Are there any posts showing gears being replaced with pics or videos? i have 35's and also feel like i'm tied to a tree when towing uphill....
 
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Old Apr 1, 2016 | 04:15 PM
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You'll have to you-tube it I would think. Fairly in depth procedure requiring some EXpencive tools & pratice to get right. VERY EXpencive learning curve on your own.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2016 | 05:11 PM
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do you have a pinion depth tool , case spreader , and dial indicator ?

if you are doing the bearings while you are in there you will also want a hydraulic press and bearing plates.

as far as a step by step tutorial I would consult the Google. if you are really determined to do the job there are hacks for the case spreader and pinion debth tool but you will still need a dial indicator and magnetic base holder for setting the backlash.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2016 | 10:15 AM
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I don't have the tools, but my friend does. But he doesn't have the bearing that slides on and off the pinion to get the correct shims. I gotta quote for $1600 for front and rear Yukon gears with 456's
 
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Originally Posted by jrockdiddy
I don't have the tools, but my friend does. But he doesn't have the bearing that slides on and off the pinion to get the correct shims. I gotta quote for $1600 for front and rear Yukon gears with 456's


$1600 is a pretty good price for a two axle gear change from a shop, better than the quotes I had gotten.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2016 | 10:35 AM
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That is a good quote. I was getting 2k plus when pricing around here.
 
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It's a friend of a friends shop. If that's a good deal, then I think I'll go for it. Just have to convince the wife

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$1600 is a pretty good price for a two axle gear change from a shop, better than the quotes I had gotten.
 
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Just want to add that with a V-10, 35"s and towing you might be happier with 4.88s, they will give you an effective 4.30-ish ratio which is a real sweet spot for the 6.8 and towing. That's the combo I'm running.
 
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thats a great price...i definitely wouldnt bother doing it myself for that money
 
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So how much will changing out the gears affect my daily driving? I do drive this truck every day for work not towing

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Just want to add that with a V-10, 35"s and towing you might be happier with 4.88s, they will give you an effective 4.30-ish ratio which is a real sweet spot for the 6.8 and towing. That's the combo I'm running.
 
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So how much will changing out the gears affect my daily driving? I do drive this truck every day for work not towing
A little lower MPG & you'll be hot rodding it everywhere
 
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A lot more RPMs on the freeway?

QUOTE=harley4jcs;16186404]A little lower MPG & you'll be hot rodding it everywhere [/QUOTE]
 
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here ya go, handy calculator to figure your RPM for at any speed , gear ratio or tire size
https://www.ringpinion.com/calculators/Calc_RPM.aspx
 
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Originally Posted by jrockdiddy
So how much will changing out the gears affect my daily driving? I do drive this truck every day for work not towing
Originally Posted by jrockdiddy
A lot more RPMs on the freeway?

QUOTE=harley4jcs;16186404]A little lower MPG & you'll be hot rodding it everywhere
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A gear change to any deeper gear will improve the performance and drivability of the EX. Do you currently have the more common 3.73 gears or are you starting out with the optional factory 4.30 gears?
My Ex started out with the 3.73 gears and on pure highway trips it did a best of 15.5 MPG on the stock 265 rubber with my typical mixed daily driving it was seeing 14-ish average tanks. After I swapped in the 4.88 gears I also bumped up from the factory 31.5" tires to 32"s, with that combo it's pure highway mileage dropped to about 12 and change. The towing MPGs (9500lb toyhauler at that time) went from 6/7 MPG up to 9 with the new gears. Later I upgraded to 35" tires (effective ratio of 4.39) and an 11,000lb TT (with custom tunes and banks headers) and am still getting 8 to 9 MPG towing on the highway. The only full tanks I have logged unloaded on the highway in this configuration showed 13 MPG with the cruise set at 65 /70 MPH. At 65 MPH in OD it is turning 2230 RPMs.
Once you finish your regear the next best thing to into is a good set of custom tunes, I went with the forum favorite tuner 5Star Tuning. The changes to the trans performance are well worth the cost of the tunes in my opinion, any actual increases in engine output are just the gravy.
 
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Might as well throw in a TrueTrac while you're in there- you'll be wantin' to spin BOTH tires with your new-found peppiness.
No peg-leg burnouts allowed!
 
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