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Old Mar 22, 2016 | 01:55 PM
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Bullet proof decisions

I acquired a 2006 CC dually w 203K miles. Overall pretty decent despite the miles. The original owner had good records. The 2 after that, not so much. So, while stockpiling a new starter, higher output alternator, belt, Tstat, hoses, filters, etc and more fluids than I ever imagined in one place I got to wondering about the bullet proofing process.

I have read through a bunch of BP threads most of which concerned earlier engines. It seems some parts in those threads were improved and fixed by 2006.

My question is for the 2006 what BP upgrades and/or mods should be considered?

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Old Mar 22, 2016 | 02:43 PM
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Gauges, STC fitting, ELC coolant, larger alternator, and run it. Other than the STC fitting don't open the engine up until it needs it.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2016 | 03:07 PM
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Options on top of what Bryan said (STC is the top of the list): Coolant filter, dummy plugs and stand pipes (but they usually will let you know as the o-rings start failing) and make sure you put the new IPR spring in that comes with the STC kit, blue spring, and delete or put a bullet proof EGR cooler in.

You might want to get your data going 1st and see what all is going on, also check records for what has been done. And then build your list for to-dos...

Congrats on the truck btw...
 
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Old Mar 22, 2016 | 03:29 PM
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I have the same question for the same year srw cc. Nothing has been done except injectors at 60k amd it now has 157k. Was planning to bulletproof next year. Waste of money for the headgasket and studs?
 
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Old Mar 22, 2016 | 03:45 PM
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I have the same question for the same year srw cc. Nothing has been done except injectors at 60k amd it now has 157k. Was planning to bulletproof next year. Waste of money for the headgasket and studs?
No need to 'just' replace stuff - unless you have $$$ to burn.

Get a scangauge2 (or any of the APPs for a phone/tablet) so you can monitor your engine. Watch your EOT vs. ECT at highway speeds once up to temp and decide if your Oil Coiler is (partially/completely) clogged.

Look for coolant spewing out the overflow (could be you need a new cap, or an EGR cooler, or head gaskets)..

Watch your ICP (ICPV) to detect signs of degraded pressure (which would be signs of internal issues as mentioned above)..

I added a fuel pressure sender and gauge, THEN did the blue spring upgrade to get better fuel pressure (injectors do NOT like low fuel pressure)..

Bottom line, figure out WHAT (if anything) NEEDS to be replaced and/or upgraded before you just decide to replace parts and perhaps miss something really important that needed attention sooner..
 
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Old Mar 22, 2016 | 04:19 PM
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This is fun.
I pulled up the service history for the original owner and it is interesting. Work all done by Ford dealers, likely under warranty.
I left out oil changes and such.

11/05/07 Cam and crank sensors replaced
02/25/08 EGR Replaced
11/24/08 injection pump nozzle replaced
03/30/09 injectors replaced, Turbo replaced
05/12/09 injectors replaced
06/30/09 injectors replaced
11/25/09 injectors replaced
After that just an Alternator replaced and oil changes until he parted with it.

I am assuming the techs were just throwing parts at the symptoms without fixing the cause.. What do you veterans think?
 
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Old Mar 22, 2016 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by diesel_dan
Options on top of what Bryan said (STC is the top of the list): Coolant filter, dummy plugs and stand pipes (but they usually will let you know as the o-rings start failing) and make sure you put the new IPR spring in that comes with the STC kit, blue spring, and delete or put a bullet proof EGR cooler in.

You might want to get your data going 1st and see what all is going on, also check records for what has been done. And then build your list for to-dos...

Congrats on the truck btw...
Hey Dan, tell us about the IPR spring that comes in the STC Kit. That's new to me. Does it go inside the IPR?
 
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Old Mar 22, 2016 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave Koehler
What do you veterans think?
I think I would have a close look at the fuel tank in it. If it is like mine....you will never solve any issues until it is replaced with an aftermarket tank. Boy have I paid for a lot of injectors..several times.....and in only 66,000 miles. M1911
 
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Old Mar 22, 2016 | 06:15 PM
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Yeah Dan, inquiring minds would like to know!
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Old Mar 22, 2016 | 06:30 PM
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It is hard to tell from the list if anything else was done. Service writer just dumbed it down I suppose.
The good news is, I kind of thought the same thing and I plan to start at the tank screens and work my way forward.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2016 | 08:12 PM
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You know, I think if I were purchasing any used vehicle from a Ford dealer or any other I would want diagnostics run on it to see what I got. There are a lot of things that can go wrong on a 6.0. The deal with the diesel tank has to do with the vapor vent sitting in a depression. When water, dirt, salty slush, etc. gets up there it can be sucked into the tank. From there it goes through the sending unit, primary filter, fuel pump, secondary filter, pressure regulator etc. until it ruins your fuel injectors and everything along the line. FICUM, HPOP, Heat exchange, all sorts of sensors.... Good luck with it. Nothing on a diesel is inexpensive. M1911
 
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Old Mar 22, 2016 | 10:38 PM
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You know, I think if I were purchasing any used vehicle from a Ford dealer or any other I would want diagnostics run on it to see what I got. There are a lot of things that can go wrong on a 6.0. The deal with the diesel tank has to do with the vapor vent sitting in a depression. When water, dirt, salty slush, etc. gets up there it can be sucked into the tank. From there it goes through the sending unit, primary filter, fuel pump, secondary filter, pressure regulator etc. until it ruins your fuel injectors and everything along the line. FICUM, HPOP, Heat exchange, all sorts of sensors.... Good luck with it. Nothing on a diesel is inexpensive. M1911
I did exactly that.....took the truck home over a weekend before i bought it to test everything and check every single pid. It was perfect but still ended up having new hg put in 2 years after. I do disagree about everything being expensive.........degas caps are only about 12 buck from ford here local
 
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Originally Posted by KDAVID1
degas caps are only about 12 buck from ford here local
And the STC fitting is only $30-50, it's the $900-1200 in labor to get to that ******* that makes it suck if you have to pay for it
 
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Old Mar 23, 2016 | 07:50 AM
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Trivia question.
What year did the upgraded stc fitting become the standard part on the 6.0L?
Same question for the stand pipes?
 
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Old Mar 23, 2016 | 09:56 AM
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Thought I read it never made it into the trucks.....just the vans??? I'm probably wrong on that.
 
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