Manual choke
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From: Phoenix, Az.
3X. Good job Coastal. I couldn't have said it better myself. When I 1st bought my 68 F250 the original plan was to mix old with new. 68's came with manual choke so I also wanted to keep it for the experience. Manual this and that but some added power this and that. PO installed 460 and brute suspension but things like intermitent wipers. Looking down that BAD AZZ hood but steering with a tilt column.
I so much respect all the awesome builds on here in the Kingdom. Wish I could. I just want a Jeffified Bump. Now if I can only get out of the have time but no money...have money but not time rut.
I so much respect all the awesome builds on here in the Kingdom. Wish I could. I just want a Jeffified Bump. Now if I can only get out of the have time but no money...have money but not time rut.
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From: **** hole San Jose ca.
Here's the thing about auto chokes: IMO, they're one of the small ways cars have become boring. My wife has a Chrysler Town and Country; it's a feat of design and engineering that makes navigating the roads so easy one need not think of the car at all. The suspension makes rough road feel like plush carpet, it's sound insulated so the roar of traffic outside is a whisper, steering, braking and acceleration are smooth and effortless. It's everything I want in a commuter car or on a road trip.
BUT, as an experience in driving, it's boring. I have no real connection with the car or with the road. This is what I like about my old, obsolete truck. I like the feel of the road through the antiquated suspension, how the engine trembles at idle, the feel of the manual steering and the somewhat temperamental drum brakes. Driving an old car is a mechanical experience, like pushing a hand plane down the edge of a board. Listening to the engine as it warms up and working the choke is just part of that experience. Why would I want to erase that?
It's the difference between punching some numbers into a CNC machine and carving something by hand. Nothing can replace real, hands on connection with real things, be they wood, soil or steel.
I have nothing against modern convenience, I'm just not that interested in machines that do all the thinking for me and separate me from the real, physical world.
BUT, as an experience in driving, it's boring. I have no real connection with the car or with the road. This is what I like about my old, obsolete truck. I like the feel of the road through the antiquated suspension, how the engine trembles at idle, the feel of the manual steering and the somewhat temperamental drum brakes. Driving an old car is a mechanical experience, like pushing a hand plane down the edge of a board. Listening to the engine as it warms up and working the choke is just part of that experience. Why would I want to erase that?
It's the difference between punching some numbers into a CNC machine and carving something by hand. Nothing can replace real, hands on connection with real things, be they wood, soil or steel.
I have nothing against modern convenience, I'm just not that interested in machines that do all the thinking for me and separate me from the real, physical world.
Man you just caused me an instant flash back to a time slot of my teens when, I use to fire up my 30 Model A for a road trip of the day to go cruising or to the market for a pack of some smokes.
But my truck is close ritual of the day for starting.
Turn on main battery switch, turn off alarm system, remove steering wheel club, Push down once on gas pedal & while pulling out choke haft way turn key an it fires right up. But now with 20k on the spark plugs it's sometime dies. this is with the plugs gapped at .050. warm it up while my air pressure builds up to 150lbs about 4-5 minutes then off, I go.
Orich
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From: Charleston, SC
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From: El Dorado, Arkansas
I've had my 2003 Mustang Mach 1 since new (13 years). I've NEVER had to fiddle with the computer, sensors, fuel delivery, spark advance or the timing on it. The processor takes care of all that and does a great job of it.
Go 13 years without rebuilding/keeping the carburetor in tune or adjusting the timing and you'll have a poorly running carbureted engine. I would say EFI is about as simple as it gets.
EFI has a communications port to plug a code scanner into. IF there is a problem, it'll direct you to what the problem is. With a carbureted 'dumb' engine, you'll just have to go through a process of elimination on your own to figure out where/what the problem is, since it has no means to direct you.
Everybody has their preferences and reasons for them. If a person loves carburetion, great. If a person loves EFI, that's great too.
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From: On the Edge of the Desert
Originally Posted by ultraranger
I've had my 2003 Mustang Mach 1 since new (13 years). I've NEVER had to fiddle with the computer, sensors, fuel delivery, spark advance or the timing on it. The processor takes care of all that and does a great job of it.
Go 13 years without rebuilding/keeping the carburetor in tune or adjusting the timing and you'll have a poorly running carbureted engine. I would say EFI is about as simple as it gets.
EFI has a communications port to plug a code scanner into. IF there is a problem, it'll direct you to what the problem is. With a carbureted 'dumb' engine, you'll just have to go through a process of elimination on your own to figure out where/what the problem is, since it has no means to direct you.
Everybody has their preferences and reasons for them. If a person loves carburetion, great. If a person loves EFI, that's great too.
Go 13 years without rebuilding/keeping the carburetor in tune or adjusting the timing and you'll have a poorly running carbureted engine. I would say EFI is about as simple as it gets.
EFI has a communications port to plug a code scanner into. IF there is a problem, it'll direct you to what the problem is. With a carbureted 'dumb' engine, you'll just have to go through a process of elimination on your own to figure out where/what the problem is, since it has no means to direct you.
Everybody has their preferences and reasons for them. If a person loves carburetion, great. If a person loves EFI, that's great too.
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From: Charleston, SC
Totally agree. I'm not condemning anyone for choosing the newer, more automated stuff, it's just not my thing. That's the beauty of the whole car scene: there's room for all kinds with varying tastes and budgets.
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From: Pocahontas, Iowa.
LOL...Mine does. Works like a champ.
Pull choke out 1/2 way, pump gas to the floor, turn key to start.
Instant
I love this truck
Mountain Pass
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Yep: not only manual choke but also manual hand throttle auxiliary to the foot throttle, manual transmission, manual steering, manual brakes, manual windows, manual door locks, manual-adjust mirrors, manual seats without hiney heater.
If you get the vapors from all this old-timey non-CPU-controlled stuff, calm yourself with Dr. Pierce's Cherry Cordial for Flummoxed Ladies: a lovely Victorian-era laudunum/alcohol tincture for the weaker sex when experiencing transient nervous collapse.
If you get the vapors from all this old-timey non-CPU-controlled stuff, calm yourself with Dr. Pierce's Cherry Cordial for Flummoxed Ladies: a lovely Victorian-era laudunum/alcohol tincture for the weaker sex when experiencing transient nervous collapse.
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From: Charleston, SC
I would love to try a glass of Absinthe, tho.
Mountain Pass
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Ouzo may be most of the reason Greek government workers receive 14 months pay for about 2 months work annually: whoever drew up the employment contract template had surely imbibed something hella strong at lunch.
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From: Charleston, SC
Ouzo, similar in flavor to Absinthe, might be the thrill you're after. It has a delayed absorption in the body leading you to quaff perhaps 2 to 3 times more than you should, with eventual predictable effects on your behavior.
Ouzo may be most of the reason Greek government workers receive 14 months pay for about 2 months work annually: whoever drew up the employment contract template had surely imbibed something hella strong at lunch.
Ouzo may be most of the reason Greek government workers receive 14 months pay for about 2 months work annually: whoever drew up the employment contract template had surely imbibed something hella strong at lunch.
Boy, we really found a rabbit trail, if you'll pardon the pun.
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