Navigator Keyless problem
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Navigator Keyless problem
Hi all,
Studying up for a problem.
Newer Navigator (forget year) had been serviced and now the Keypad, keyfob and autolock do not work. This is a coworker of a friend so I had them check by cycling the ignition switch 8 times and no response. I'm guessing there is a problem with the RAP module, but wanted to check and see other possibilites besides maybe a fuse or pulled connector. Also, are there any specific reprogramming instructions to set it to the truck or should I just need to reprogram the remotes.
Thanks
Chris
Studying up for a problem.
Newer Navigator (forget year) had been serviced and now the Keypad, keyfob and autolock do not work. This is a coworker of a friend so I had them check by cycling the ignition switch 8 times and no response. I'm guessing there is a problem with the RAP module, but wanted to check and see other possibilites besides maybe a fuse or pulled connector. Also, are there any specific reprogramming instructions to set it to the truck or should I just need to reprogram the remotes.
Thanks
Chris
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Navigator Keyless problem
The model year would be important. Early models use RAP, later models use Central Security Module and there are multiple methods of programming. My guess since you lost multiple functions of several devices is that you have a problem that wont do you any good to reprogram. The keypad has a permanent key code that wont change. Does the keypad even light up when you press it? Do the door locks work with the door switches? I would check connections at what ever module it uses and check fuses first. What services were performed before this occured?
Last edited by HomerWinzlow; Aug 12, 2003 at 12:35 PM.
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where is the receiver for the keyfob remote? i had posted on here a while back that my 98 eb keyfob was not working, it only works about 1 out of every 25 times, and you have to have the remote almost sitting on the car for it to work. i cleaned the contacts on both remotes, and put new batteries, but i still have the same problem.
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Originally posted by yuppietrash
where is the receiver for the keyfob remote? i had posted on here a while back that my 98 eb keyfob was not working, it only works about 1 out of every 25 times, and you have to have the remote almost sitting on the car for it to work. i cleaned the contacts on both remotes, and put new batteries, but i still have the same problem.
where is the receiver for the keyfob remote? i had posted on here a while back that my 98 eb keyfob was not working, it only works about 1 out of every 25 times, and you have to have the remote almost sitting on the car for it to work. i cleaned the contacts on both remotes, and put new batteries, but i still have the same problem.
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Navigator Keyless problem
Originally posted by HomerWinzlow
The model year would be important. Early models use RAP, later models use Central Security Module and there are multiple methods of programming. My guess since you lost multiple functions of several devices is that you have a problem that wont do you any good to reprogram. The keypad has a permanent key code that wont change. Does the keypad even light up when you press it? Do the door locks work with the door switches? I would check connections at what ever module it uses and check fuses first. What services were performed before this occured?
The model year would be important. Early models use RAP, later models use Central Security Module and there are multiple methods of programming. My guess since you lost multiple functions of several devices is that you have a problem that wont do you any good to reprogram. The keypad has a permanent key code that wont change. Does the keypad even light up when you press it? Do the door locks work with the door switches? I would check connections at what ever module it uses and check fuses first. What services were performed before this occured?
I doubt reprogramming will work either. Its just I remember seeing on some of the RAP modules to call a 800 number for replacment, so I figured there was a special procedure if the module was replaced. Thanks for the info, I guess I'll just have to see what it is when it comes in.
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You are probably thinking of CTM, central timer module which was used in place of a GEM, when the vehicle was not equipped with power group.
CSM is the newest generation security system module on late model vehicles. It replaced the RAP.
Get a fix on the exact year and model and post if you need additional help.
CSM is the newest generation security system module on late model vehicles. It replaced the RAP.
Get a fix on the exact year and model and post if you need additional help.
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No, definitely CSM. I've seen it listed along with the RAP on some years of the wiring diagrams in mitchell. Problably just consolidation with the mitchell docs.
If I need any clues with the Keyless once I get my hands on the vehicle I'll be sure to post up! Thanks!
If I need any clues with the Keyless once I get my hands on the vehicle I'll be sure to post up! Thanks!
