Anderson Hitch
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Correct me if I'm wrong: It looks like this design effectively moves the pin back a few inches, toward the rear bumper. Is this correct?
If so, I could see where that would give short bed trucks more cab clearance.
But, that moves the pin weight back, putting more load on the rear axle. Which could be not so good.
If so, I could see where that would give short bed trucks more cab clearance.
But, that moves the pin weight back, putting more load on the rear axle. Which could be not so good.
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Anderson is $520 shipped.
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Correct me if I'm wrong: It looks like this design effectively moves the pin back a few inches, toward the rear bumper. Is this correct?
If so, I could see where that would give short bed trucks more cab clearance.
But, that moves the pin weight back, putting more load on the rear axle. Which could be not so good.
If so, I could see where that would give short bed trucks more cab clearance.
But, that moves the pin weight back, putting more load on the rear axle. Which could be not so good.
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From: Pocatello, Id
Correct me if I'm wrong: It looks like this design effectively moves the pin back a few inches, toward the rear bumper. Is this correct?
If so, I could see where that would give short bed trucks more cab clearance.
But, that moves the pin weight back, putting more load on the rear axle. Which could be not so good.
If so, I could see where that would give short bed trucks more cab clearance.
But, that moves the pin weight back, putting more load on the rear axle. Which could be not so good.
In my bed it actually sits just forward of the rear axle. It's hard to tell from the angle of the picture. I've got a long bed so I don't have any clearance issues but a short bed might. If that were the case you could flip the hitch around and it would be an inch or two behind the axle.
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From: Not as far west as I want
Correct me if I'm wrong: It looks like this design effectively moves the pin back a few inches, toward the rear bumper. Is this correct?
If so, I could see where that would give short bed trucks more cab clearance.
But, that moves the pin weight back, putting more load on the rear axle. Which could be not so good.
If so, I could see where that would give short bed trucks more cab clearance.
But, that moves the pin weight back, putting more load on the rear axle. Which could be not so good.
In that situation of a semi tractor/trailer it is making sure the weights are right on. Generally 12,000 pounds on a steer axle. 34,000 pounds on a set of drive tandems and so forth.
The main thing is keeping it ahead of the rear axle. Moving it ahead puts weight up on the steer axle which on a really heave 5th wheel is a must, IMO.
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I didn't mean for this to turn into the discussion it did. But after speaking to a Captian for the Idaho State Police (my neighbor) and doing a little research I've found it depends on the state you're in. Idaho for instance doesn't require them, but California does. So in a GN situation you would need to know the state laws that you'll be traveling through.
That requirement shows up both state and federal law. 49 CFR 393.70(c and d) talks of safety devices in the event of "tow bar failure." 393.70(b) talks about 5th wheels.
Which, while the codes is not enforceable to a camper running up and down the road playing tourist, you may fall under state laws. If I were to run with any sort of ball connection I would be using chains. I'd also make sure the breakaway switch was working. If the worst case where I were to lose a trailer I would the binders to bind and not have a runaway running into a family head-on.
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Check the allen screws and bolts occasionally. The bolts should be 50-60 lbs if I remember from other forums. I just got one but haven't used it yet.
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Actually, the rail mount version of the Andersen Ultimate lists at $449 and I got mine for $399.
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https://www.etrailer.com/Accessories...e/RP50223.html
There are also some safety chain loops that fit the pucks on factory prep models.
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I read a post somewhere of someone who weighed in both positions and there wasn't much difference because the weight is transferred to the base of the Andersen Ultimate and distributed evenly. I have a short bed and will position with the ball to the rear. I also have an extended pin which caused the pin box mounting wings to almost hit the side of the bed with my Reese 16K hitch. If still a problem with the Andersen, the adapter can be reversed with the hole to the rear, effectively shortening the pin box.
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Rails have extra slots and I will be using these:
https://www.etrailer.com/Accessories...e/RP50223.html
There are also some safety chain loops that fit the pucks on factory prep models.
https://www.etrailer.com/Accessories...e/RP50223.html
There are also some safety chain loops that fit the pucks on factory prep models.
Where do you attach the chain on the pin box with and Andersen Ultimate? I like the rail adapters just can't figure out where the chains would attach on the other end.
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The Andersen safety chain kit (incorrect kit pictured earlier) replaces the two bolts that hold the adapter to the pin with two bolts that have eyelets for the chains.
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That makes me feel better about this setup.
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FWIW, I have forgotten (ONCE!) to lock the ball to the hitch on my Anderson and drove over 200 miles to my destination .... it never gave me a hint of unhooking! Shhhh- don't tell my wife! I have never forgotten again, I'll tell you..... (Drove down I-95 from Baltimore area for about 200 miles - the road was NOT in perfect shape either...)
But it also tells me with it locked I'll never need safety chains!
But it also tells me with it locked I'll never need safety chains!