High EOTgoing up a long 6% grade
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Fleet Mechanic
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Likely a dirty radiator. The airside can get pretty nasty. I was seeing similar temps (210-215F) climbing long 6% grades a bit south of you (Hwy 180 into Kings Canyon), also unloaded. Towing it ran 220-225 with the fan screaming.
Air side looked ok from the top, but once I pulled the rad it was impacted all the way thru, especially down at the bottom. Tried flushing with a hose nozzle and dropped the temp a few degrees unloaded. Towing was the same.
Got a new radiator and my ECT now runs 195-200 unloaded on the same hill depending on how much I get into the go pedal.
Air side looked ok from the top, but once I pulled the rad it was impacted all the way thru, especially down at the bottom. Tried flushing with a hose nozzle and dropped the temp a few degrees unloaded. Towing was the same.
Got a new radiator and my ECT now runs 195-200 unloaded on the same hill depending on how much I get into the go pedal.
I figure pulling the radiator to clean it is good preventive maintenance.
BTW, I own an E150 van in addition to the diesel van. I drove it in 90 degree weather up the grade to Kings Canyon and it never got over 190 degrees. I am planning a trip to Death Valley in the diesel van this spring and want to get the cooling problem resolved before I hit any major grades. $219 for a radiator is about $50 more than what I payed to fill up the E150 van when gas hit $4.50 a gallon!
Fleet Mechanic
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I am pulling the radiator as soon as I have a free weekend. Performance sells an all aluminum radiator for $219 that is supposed to be the same one sold by BPD. I am hoping that ED from FICM Repair will have a lead on a good radiator.
I figure pulling the radiator to clean it is good preventive maintenance.
BTW, I own an E150 van in addition to the diesel van. I drove it in 90 degree weather up the grade to Kings Canyon and it never got over 190 degrees. I am planning a trip to Death Valley in the diesel van this spring and want to get the cooling problem resolved before I hit any major grades. $219 for a radiator is about $50 more than what I payed to fill up the E150 van when gas hit $4.50 a gallon!
I figure pulling the radiator to clean it is good preventive maintenance.
BTW, I own an E150 van in addition to the diesel van. I drove it in 90 degree weather up the grade to Kings Canyon and it never got over 190 degrees. I am planning a trip to Death Valley in the diesel van this spring and want to get the cooling problem resolved before I hit any major grades. $219 for a radiator is about $50 more than what I payed to fill up the E150 van when gas hit $4.50 a gallon!
After getting a freight-damaged radiator from Tousley and them not recommending shipping another, I ended up buying a radiator locally from a dealer. I think I ended up paying around $375 and I was able to inspect it before leaving. Good as the first one I found was bent. Ford really needs to package these things better...
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Fleet Mechanic
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I was wondering about the build quality. I heard about Performance on the Sports mobile forum. I called BPD and they said they get the all aluminum radiator from Performance.
OEM style replacement are.about $200 at local parts shop. They all have plastic. I don't need an all aluminum. I need one that cools.
OEM style replacement are.about $200 at local parts shop. They all have plastic. I don't need an all aluminum. I need one that cools.
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Fleet Mechanic
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Thanks for the tip! The radiator may cost a little more than an oil change with that discount.
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I don't think there's anything wrong. When I pull the 6% Camarillo grade or the long grade out of Indio going east, pulling my trailer, I see 220 ect and my fan kicks in and drops it back down to about 210. Ect's will show between 12-18 degrees when pulling, 7-10 degrees without.
You are in cooler weather but higher elevation and even with the turbo, I'd expect to see similar results unloaded.
I wouldn't spend the money.
You are in cooler weather but higher elevation and even with the turbo, I'd expect to see similar results unloaded.
I wouldn't spend the money.
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Fleet Mechanic
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I don't think there's anything wrong. When I pull the 6% Camarillo grade or the long grade out of Indio going east, pulling my trailer, I see 220 ect and my fan kicks in and drops it back down to about 210. Ect's will show between 12-18 degrees when pulling, 7-10 degrees without.
You are in cooler weather but higher elevation and even with the turbo, I'd expect to see similar results unloaded.
I wouldn't spend the money.
You are in cooler weather but higher elevation and even with the turbo, I'd expect to see similar results unloaded.
I wouldn't spend the money.
I purchased a $2.50 spst toggle switch on Amazon and will use it as a fan clutch over ride switch. Various folks have used this mod to cool things down when climbing a grade or towing a load. It will cost about $50 after I buy the soldering kit and wires. I need the soldering kit to complete my house battery wiring.
I am adding BG Super Cool to my fresh coolant flush.
While I am on this topic has anyone changed the serpentine belt on the 6.0 van?
Mountain Pass
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Belt change is not fun. Easiest way is to remove cooling module and fan stator. Can be done without removal but is not fun at all.
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Fleet Mechanic
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it's amazing as it was and is well taken care of.
Laughing Gas
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Yes I've done it. It's a while ago but I do remember it wasn't so much fun. If your arms are skinny and long like mine it's not too difficult to tackle though.
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Fleet Mechanic
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My arms are skinny and long. I am 6'0" and still weight about 180. Do I have to remove the fan shroud? I would rather remove the easy low hanging fruit than trying to snake my skinny arms through a maze and jungle.
Laughing Gas
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I did my belt by myself only removing the fan shroud, I don't consider it bad at all, took me all of 5 minutes. Not sure why everyone's removing loads of stuff
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Fleet Mechanic
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I love low hanging fruit repairs. I am 4 times slower than the average shade tree mechanic. Give me at least 20 minutes for this repair after I remove the fan shroud.
Thanks!
Mountain Pass
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5 minutes to change the belt On a 6.0 van? I'd like to see that.