Would You Haul It?
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Worst case you could just tell them that the bus (if stuck with a non working one) broke down and is no longer in working/opperable condition and your just attempting to recover it so you can get it home and this was the only option aside from calling a local tow company that may or may not have what they would need for the vehicle, or the ability to tow it out of state/where your going...IE its non working and being hauled back to your place for decomission, I did this once and was all good (course I was not hauling a full bus at the time, and it had been partly taken apart for tossing parts in the bed...), may help if you take it apart some and have the part(s) in the bed of your truck (or if the other person has a truck some in there trucks bed, would at least show DOT your not trying any thing funny and you really are just moving a broken piece of equipment/scrap (in there eyes) from point A to B
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Well, My .02.....If your trailer is tagged for 10k, and your truck SHOULD pull rated at 12k GCVW max....The truck will do it. But, you should do some research on the school bus and try to find out what the scale wt. is on one of those trolleys....I'd almost bet they are over 9k# just sitting there. And I think that number is conservative. If the scales catch you pulling over weight and possibly over-height. They will Bend you over....They will weigh you Combined, then look at your Registration and see what your weight class you are registered for. Then they will stand you up and then bend you over the other way.... I experienced this first Hand,
I felt so Violated......
I felt so Violated......
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^^^^ Me too
I felt so violated. Then it stays on your record for 2 years, and your insurance rates go up. Thats why I tell the OP to be very carfull, DOT aint no joke. Your better of renting or buying a tow bar or dolley, that way you dont have the extra weight of the trailer. By the way how much those the trailer weigh?
I felt so violated. Then it stays on your record for 2 years, and your insurance rates go up. Thats why I tell the OP to be very carfull, DOT aint no joke. Your better of renting or buying a tow bar or dolley, that way you dont have the extra weight of the trailer. By the way how much those the trailer weigh?
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The other surefire way of making it Happen, is finding a Heavy equipment Hauler with a Low-boy and buy him some Fuel and a B*tt load of his favorite Poison and it's smooth sailing......Of course that deflates the whole cheep purchase theory......
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Based on the conversation taking place in this thread I take it Walleye Hunter is doing the haul for profit or for a business. Otherwise, all of this is a non-issue because he is using the trailer for personal use just like someone towing a 42 ft 5th wheel down the road?
I mean, if I were looking to salvage the engine from a school bus and then had a friend that had a tandem axle flat bed trailer, I could tow the bus to my home as long as it was not over 13'6" (bus and trailer) tall right?
I mean, if I were looking to salvage the engine from a school bus and then had a friend that had a tandem axle flat bed trailer, I could tow the bus to my home as long as it was not over 13'6" (bus and trailer) tall right?
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I will buy it for my own salvage purposes if I can get it for $1000 or less, the mileage is in the 122,000 range. I figure it is overweight for my unit and it looks like that is the consensus. Height wise I am good, it may hang over the end a little but not more than the laws allow but it will get some attention. I am no stranger to tip toeing around the country overweight but that's another story, they didn't attract the attention that the bus will. The MD website says that any truck over 10,000 lbs must weigh if the scale is open and the scale in Perrysville has a good view of the highway so pretending I didn't know I was to stop won't fly. There is a not too bad alternate route that I can take that will take me way around that scale. It looks like there is a truck stop right before the scale so I could stop there and find out if the scale is open since I don't run CB radio. If HKusp can get me the scoop on that scale house and its hours it would be great. But if I win a running unit and just have the trailer in case of break down that would work too. Hiring a real truck to bring it home would make the price unattractive.
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I will buy it for my own salvage purposes if I can get it for $1000 or less, the mileage is in the 122,000 range. I figure it is overweight for my unit and it looks like that is the consensus. Height wise I am good, it may hang over the end a little but not more than the laws allow but it will get some attention. I am no stranger to tip toeing around the country overweight but that's another story, they didn't attract the attention that the bus will. The MD website says that any truck over 10,000 lbs must weigh if the scale is open and the scale in Perrysville has a good view of the highway so pretending I didn't know I was to stop won't fly. There is a not too bad alternate route that I can take that will take me way around that scale. It looks like there is a truck stop right before the scale so I could stop there and find out if the scale is open since I don't run CB radio. If HKusp can get me the scoop on that scale house and its hours it would be great. But if I win a running unit and just have the trailer in case of break down that would work too. Hiring a real truck to bring it home would make the price unattractive.
If I were going through MD with my 10K lbs travel trailer I would not even think about stopping at a scale. But, based on what you are thinking, I would be in violation of the MD law for not stopping.
What about if I were towing a small tandem trailer that had a pallet of bricks on it for my patio project, would I be required to stop at the scale?
Again, I may be wrong, but I thought scales and weight stations controlled by the DOT were for commercial drivers/haulers.
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Your truck does not weigh over 10,000 lbs. Based on what you have posted and your thoughts, just about every HD truck (Chevy, Ford, GM) must stop at a scale if they are towing just about anything? I think you are over analyzing it friend.
If I were going through MD with my 10K lbs travel trailer I would not even think about stopping at a scale. But, based on what you are thinking, I would be in violation of the MD law for not stopping.
What about if I were towing a small tandem trailer that had a pallet of bricks on it for my patio project, would I be required to stop at the scale?
Again, I may be wrong, but I thought scales and weight stations controlled by the DOT were for commercial drivers/haulers.
If I were going through MD with my 10K lbs travel trailer I would not even think about stopping at a scale. But, based on what you are thinking, I would be in violation of the MD law for not stopping.
What about if I were towing a small tandem trailer that had a pallet of bricks on it for my patio project, would I be required to stop at the scale?
Again, I may be wrong, but I thought scales and weight stations controlled by the DOT were for commercial drivers/haulers.
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I spend a lot of time traveling on the interstate due to being in the military and having family on the other side of the country. Just this summer we did 8K miles with our 10K lbs travel trailer in tow from GA to Seattle and back and I never once stopped at a weigh station. When we were on I-90 in WA I passed a lot of weigh stations and never once was chased down. I also see DOT enforcement all over the place and I have never seen a 5th wheel, travel trailer or class A, B or C at a weigh station or being pulled over by DOT.
I might be in the wrong, but I always thought that campers and privately owned trailers not in use of a business or for prophet were not obligated to stop at weigh stations. I can completely understand if something was wrong or unsafe that you could be stopped by DOT or LE, but not for weighing purposes.
I don't plan to ever stop at a weigh station unless it is a CAT scale and I am weighing for my own knowledge. Just sayin...
I might be in the wrong, but I always thought that campers and privately owned trailers not in use of a business or for prophet were not obligated to stop at weigh stations. I can completely understand if something was wrong or unsafe that you could be stopped by DOT or LE, but not for weighing purposes.
I don't plan to ever stop at a weigh station unless it is a CAT scale and I am weighing for my own knowledge. Just sayin...
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^^^ yup what he said, they were even pulling over 1/2 ton non commercial trucks with lumber on the bed ( I saw it the guy had probably 10 2×4) it looked like he got cited for "worn" tires the officer used his gauge then wrote something down and gave the guy his citation. All of this in front of my shop.