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Old Feb 19, 2016 | 07:46 PM
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In the first body shop I worked we used the exact tape on cars we did for used car dealers. Grind the paint and rust off, knock the rust in, apply tape, scuff and lather on the plastic. One project we did was a rusted out Jeep once, looked really nice when it left the shop.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2016 | 09:04 PM
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here in our area of the country you have to be on the look out for spray foam. They spray it in shave it and putty over it. I was very disappointed when I saw this performed at a body shop by an individual that is the son of a very close friend. I asked him about it and he said that it was common practice in all the area shops. I am not much of an auto body repairman and certainly it is not my field of expertise but I know a con when I see one.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2016 | 10:06 PM
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Actually the stuff is probably a good thing to use when trying to get a few more years out of a beater. From what I have heard PA will fail a car for inspection if it has a rust hole, so this would keep the car on the road.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2016 | 10:14 PM
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Now I'm told I have been doing it all wrong.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2016 | 02:29 AM
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Actually, the tape is an upgrade from the roofing tar my PO used to encapsulate rust.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2016 | 07:00 AM
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I know a guy who had to get his car inspected here in Vermont. The inspection due-date was in the dead of winter. His car had rust holes in the floor that needed to be repaired before it would pass inspection. He used paper tape and all-purpose drywall joint compound. He even brushed on some latex paint after the joint compound froze up solid. As long as the car wasn't brought into a heated space, it made a pretty solid patch that lasted until the first thaw.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2016 | 10:51 AM
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That ad says it's a must have for enthusiasts. I have a couple rolls in the shop so I'm good there. Those trucks, aren't they the tilt bed version? Remins me of my tilt bed trailer for my lawn mowers.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2016 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by drptop70ss
Actually the stuff is probably a good thing to use when trying to get a few more years out of a beater. From what I have heard PA will fail a car for inspection if it has a rust hole, so this would keep the car on the road.
Yes, I grew up near Pittsburgh and the PA State inspection has always been thorough. I fixed a few '57 & '58 Fords as a teenager (you could get a license at 16 then) where the front of the fenders above the headlights rusted through. My methods when young with no money were probably closer to what has been described previously . . . except for jvmcc's paper tape fix.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2016 | 12:27 PM
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... I fixed a few '57 & '58 Fords as a teenager (you could get a license at 16 then) where the front of the fenders above the headlights rusted through. ..
A '58 Chevy was my burden. The front 6" of the "brows" was solid bondo by the time we sold it.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2016 | 02:26 PM
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One of the reasons I hung up my spray guns and quit body and paint was the fact that most people want a top notch repair but want to pay the price of a tape, bondo, and rattle can type repair.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2016 | 03:12 PM
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Born and raised in Cal. so excuse my ignorance. Are the cars built now days dipped, coated, or otherwise built in any way to prevent rust? If not, I just don't understand how anyone could afford a $30K plus, car or truck only to have it rusted out B4 it's paid for.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2016 | 04:42 PM
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Born and raised in Cal. so excuse my ignorance. Are the cars built now days dipped, coated, or otherwise built in any way to prevent rust? If not, I just don't understand how anyone could afford a $30K plus, car or truck only to have it rusted out B4 it's paid for.
All the Plants that I have visited dip the entire body or unibody. The frame is a different story. it doesn't have to look nice just provide some level of corrosion protection. Toyota probably lightened the frame but didn't test for corrosion . . . Just assumed that the old ground up tires mixed with acetone that they sprayed on before would work just fine. Oops !!!
 
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Old Feb 20, 2016 | 04:45 PM
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I can only speak for the manufacturing facility that I worked at. I worked almost all my 23 years in paint. All of our white metal bodies arrived in paint where they got an alcohol wipe down inside doors right before they went for a swim in phosphate and E coat tanks, into an oven, through a check and sand booth, sealer line, oven and on to a color match prime booth and oven, another check and sand booth, blow off and tack booth, top coat, oven, touchup booth, wax booth(where a rust preventing wax was shot inside the doors, rockers), and finally on to underbody where they had a protective coating shot on the under side of the body and fender wheels...........whew........and they finally left us and went on to trim for assembly.

And Quality Assurance inspectors were present just prior to going to underbody where they would turn the cars back to touchup if unacceptable defects were found.

A lot more to it than that but in a nutshell that's what happens to a bare metal body until it exits the paint plant.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2016 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Drewski 2
I can only speak for the manufacturing facility that I worked at. I worked almost all my 23 years in paint. All of our white metal bodies arrived in paint where they got an alcohol wipe down inside doors right before they went for a swim in phosphate and E coat tanks, into an oven, through a check and sand booth, sealer line, oven and on to a color match prime booth and oven, another check and sand booth, blow off and tack booth, top coat, oven, touchup booth, wax booth(where a rust preventing wax was shot inside the doors, rockers), and finally on to underbody where they had a protective coating shot on the under side of the body and fender wheels...........whew........and they finally left us and went on to trim for assembly.

And Quality Assurance inspectors were present just prior to going to underbody where they would turn the cars back to touchup if unacceptable defects were found.

A lot more to it than that but in a nutshell that's what happens to a bare metal body until it exits the paint plant.
Good description Drew. We're those unibodies? The Toyotas pictured look like they had a frame failure.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2016 | 06:04 PM
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Toyota frame thing is very common here in NY, they just rot away. Pretty much the same thing happens for all makes of trucks that get driven in the snow, you would think by now they could figure out a way to rust proof the frames. Powder coat maybe? Same thing with fuel and brake lines, they can put stainless exhaust on cars but still plain old steel brake lines?
Lots of trucks here get scrapped for bad frames when the rest of the truck is good to go.
 
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