2008 - 2010 Superduty reliability?
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2008 - 2010 Superduty reliability?
I'm in the market for a pick up truck to replace my 2001 Excursion with a 7.3. I just don't need the seating capacity now that most of the kids are in high school. I've been looking for a 2011+ and have no preference between F250 or F350. I also don`t NEED a diesel, but if the right deal came along I'd be ok with it. My job responsibilities are also expanding and I'll need to be on the road more often driving down to NJ and PA a few times a month.
Am I limiting my options by not considering a 2008 - 2010 Superduty? Are they really that undesirable? Is the 6.4 any more unreliable than any other motor? Is the 5.4 gas underpowered for this truck compared to the 6.2 in 2011+? I just don't know enough about them to make an educated decision. What should I be looking for or avoiding?
Am I limiting my options by not considering a 2008 - 2010 Superduty? Are they really that undesirable? Is the 6.4 any more unreliable than any other motor? Is the 5.4 gas underpowered for this truck compared to the 6.2 in 2011+? I just don't know enough about them to make an educated decision. What should I be looking for or avoiding?
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From: SW Indiana melon fields.
I've got a 2008 5.4 CC 4X4 that I bought new. It rolled over 173K this afternoon. The only engine problem I ever had was a throttle body when it was under warranty. I don't tow, but frequently haul 2-3K with no problem. It's not a dragster, but I wouldn't hesitate to buy another just like it if the right truck came along.
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Yup, that's three whole model years worth of trucks that are outside the scope of your search. Of course that limits your options.
I don't think so. By most regards it's a bit better than the 6.0L engine. The problem is that the 6.4L engine is widely regarded to be the most difficult engine to work on that's ever been put in a Super Duty. Lots of things to be replaced are routinely cab-off repairs, and that's pricey for those who don't have a two-post lift.
You're comparing a 300 HP engine with a 385-HP engine. You tell me, is 85 HP a big deal in an 8,000 lb truck?
My only advice here is to STAY AWAY from the 2011 model year 6.7L trucks. Some of them had defective exhaust valves that would come apart and wreck the whole engine. Well over $10,000 to have this fixed out of warranty at a dealer, and they're not terribly uncommon. The problem was fixed by the 2012 model year, and I wouldn't hesitate to purchase a 2012-present 6.7L truck.
Originally Posted by rblank
Is the 6.4 any more unreliable than any other motor?
Originally Posted by rblank
Is the 5.4 gas underpowered for this truck compared to the 6.2 in 2011+?
Originally Posted by rblank
What should I be looking for or avoiding?
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If you're considering gas don't write of the 09-10 V10's. Most refined V10 with what seems like minimal, if any, problems. Lots of power. Just a bit harder to find due to the amount made and many holding on to them because they know....... An 08 isn't bad but some, like mine, have the two piece spark plugs that can break. Similar in the 5.4. The 09-10's are fine and some 08's, just can't remember the build date. Some thing like 10/07 or from what I understand the "good" plugs have brown coil boots and the "bad" have black coil boots. But the tools are out there to remove these babies without too much issue from what it seems.
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From: Boise
Diesel reliability went by the wayside in 2003. It is better today though. If your objective is reliability look no further than the 6.2 SD. Although the "Triton" motors are reliable, you will get more power and most get better mpg's out of a 6.2. If you can do 10mpg's, the V10 is pretty darn solid. I personally wouldn't touch a diesel out of the factory warranty. The 6.4 was made for 3 model years, probably the fewest any motor has gone in Ford history. The 6.4 would be last diesel out of any modern diesel I would consider owning.
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2008 - 2010 Superduty reliability?
I have 105k miles on my 08 F350 with the 5.4. I love it. It plows snow every winter and tows 12k lb mini excavations, skid steers, various cars and trucks and my 7000# TT no problem. It does 0-60 in 7.8 seconds and the 1/4 in under 16 seconds. Are the underpowered? Absolutely not. 20 years ago every motor available made less power and those were just fine back then so why wouldn't more power be better now. Anyone can find an excuse to want more power but 90% of people will never need more power.
My truck has been great to me. Only repairs have been exhaust manifolds and y pipe, both replaced under warranty. Like stated above the v10 is an awesome option as well. I would not buy another 2v v10 over a 3v 5.4, but the 3v v10 is a monster.
My truck has been great to me. Only repairs have been exhaust manifolds and y pipe, both replaced under warranty. Like stated above the v10 is an awesome option as well. I would not buy another 2v v10 over a 3v 5.4, but the 3v v10 is a monster.
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I tell ya, when I'm just cruising around in my V10 dually (not a reg cab 2wd, a full crew cab dually 4x4) and get a chance to floor it on an on ramp or some place acceptable to accelerate quickly, it doesn't disappoint.
It pulls my 14k dump trailer just fine, even better than those silly 5.4's
Just messing with ya NoJoke. But no joke that V10 is great. Haha.
Figure on the style you want, the trim, cab, 4x4/4x2, mileage and then start from there and decide on a motor. They ALL work and work well. Some have more power and some make a grumbly noise. Decide what YOU want and the go find that truck. It's out there if you're willing to wait.
It pulls my 14k dump trailer just fine, even better than those silly 5.4's
Just messing with ya NoJoke. But no joke that V10 is great. Haha. Figure on the style you want, the trim, cab, 4x4/4x2, mileage and then start from there and decide on a motor. They ALL work and work well. Some have more power and some make a grumbly noise. Decide what YOU want and the go find that truck. It's out there if you're willing to wait.
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I wanted a 3v v10 but couldn't get one when I got my truck. I have driven several and loved them. In stock form I didn't care for the 5.4 but once I got a tuner it was like an entirely different truck. The same can be said for the v10 too I suppose. The motor and tranny just felt weak and loose. The tuner seemed to tighten everything up if that makes any sense. Never cared for any of the 2v motors and hated the 4r100 but I wouldn't hesitate to buy either 3v again. I also love the 08-10 style
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My 2008 with a 6.4 is sitting in the driveway need $12G-$14,000 worth of work.
Biggest , most expensive lemon Ive ever had.
Nice truck with lots of power in its day but if they break your better to spend the money on something else.
Biggest , most expensive lemon Ive ever had.
Nice truck with lots of power in its day but if they break your better to spend the money on something else.
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That's s insane. Sorry to hear about that.
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I don't think so. By most regards it's a bit better than the 6.0L engine. The problem is that the 6.4L engine is widely regarded to be the most difficult engine to work on that's ever been put in a Super Duty. Lots of things to be replaced are routinely cab-off repairs, and that's pricey for those who don't have a two-post lift.
Totally disagree. By the end of the 6.0's production, they were way more reliable than the 6.4 that replaced it. My old 6.0 service truck spent a lot of time at the dealer, but everytime I was there, at least 1 6.4 was in there completely tore down. The 6.4 is a nightmare. I bought a Dodge in 2010 because I wanted NOTHING to do with one. That didn't work out either and I have a 2013 with the 6.7. If you want an 08-10 truck stay gas.
My only advice here is to STAY AWAY from the 2011 model year 6.7L trucks. Some of them had defective exhaust valves that would come apart and wreck the whole engine. Well over $10,000 to have this fixed out of warranty at a dealer, and they're not terribly uncommon. The problem was fixed by the 2012 model year, and I wouldn't hesitate to purchase a 2012-present 6.7L truck.
I'd take a chance on a 2011 6.7 pickup over a 6.4 any day of the week.
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Totally disagree. By the end of the 6.0's production, they were way more reliable than the 6.4 that replaced it. My old 6.0 service truck spent a lot of time at the dealer, but everytime I was there, at least 1 6.4 was in there completely tore down. The 6.4 is a nightmare. I bought a Dodge in 2010 because I wanted NOTHING to do with one. That didn't work out either and I have a 2013 with the 6.7. If you want an 08-10 truck stay gas.
I'd take a chance on a 2011 6.7 pickup over a 6.4 any day of the week.
I'd take a chance on a 2011 6.7 pickup over a 6.4 any day of the week.
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my buddy has a new body f150 extended cab, i usually hate extended cabs, but after seeing his, and how the new f150 rear half doors open 180 degrees, they are PERFECT for work. so much easier to get tools in and out (or anything really, not just tools), it's awesome. i hate trying to get large items in and out of my f350 crew cab. the door is always in the damn way!
if i were to get one, i'd personally get the non ecoboost model. probably the 5.0L V8. i know the ecoboost is good and all, but no one knows if they're gonna last for hundreds of thousands of miles and years and years like the gas motors do in the SD trucks and other f150's.
