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Old Feb 3, 2016 | 03:01 AM
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Front wheel bearings

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I brought myself a grease nipple bit from riffraff among other goodies to grease my front hubs. I have found that hub has excessive movement from side to side, or up and down. Am I right in thinking if the bearing is shot I will need a new hub assembly.
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Old Feb 3, 2016 | 07:23 AM
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Sounds right to me, on the up and down part you may want to check your ball joints too? Go with OEM or Timken branded hub assemblies, the cheap ones do not seem to last long at all, Timken are cheaper than OEM and can be bought from a number of places, autozone and Amazon sell them for sure.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2016 | 08:47 AM
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The front wheel bearings is one of the most frustratingly shoddy designs on our trucks. IMO. Get a good bearing such as Timken and go from there. I started lubing them with the Riffraff grease nipple this year as well.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2016 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by theenforcer
. I have found that hub has excessive movement from side to side, or up and down.
Which part is moving like this? If it's the stub axle you're referring to, it could be just the needle bearings.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2016 | 10:26 AM
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Thanks for the replys guys. Yeah it's not my ball joints, I've done them about 50000kms ago. I can hold the wheel studs and wobble the bit they are joined too. When you say needle bearing can I replace just the bearing or is it the whole assembly, I looked up the timken brand on riffraff website. He has them for a little over 200US.
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Old Feb 3, 2016 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by theenforcer
. When you say needle bearing can I replace just the bearing or is it the whole assembly, I looked up the timkin brand on riffraff website.
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The needle bearings are separate. As long as the stub axle is not scored or damaged, you can just replace them. If that is your issue.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2016 | 10:43 AM
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Ok, the bearing was making a crunchy noise before I greased it. So to get to the bearing I will need to undo the 4 bolts at the back that hold the hub assembly on then i should be able to see it when that comes off. Does the whole axle slide out with it I can't remember how it worked when I did my ball joints.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2016 | 10:58 AM
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Yes, the hub will slide off the stub axle when you pull it. Then you'll see the needle bearings.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2016 | 11:03 AM
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Ok cheers. I'll give it a go
 
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Old Feb 3, 2016 | 11:04 AM
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its probably fine the stub if you leave the hubs unlocked and out of 4wd, if the needles were shot and you ran it in 4x4 with hubs locked then it will damage your stubs after a while.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2016 | 11:21 AM
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its probably fine the stub if you leave the hubs unlocked and out of 4wd, if the needles were shot and you ran it in 4x4 with hubs locked then it will damage your stubs after a while.
But the needle bearing rotates around the stub when in 4x2 and they are both rotating together in 4x4 so I would think the opposite would be true?
 
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Old Feb 3, 2016 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Rikster-7700
But the needle bearing rotates around the stub when in 4x2 and they are both rotating together in 4x4 so I would think the opposite would be true?
no the needle bearing is stationary.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2016 | 12:35 PM
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That happen on my dually. It was the passenger side. I just changed the whole hub. I had to change the rotor as well because it was an E99. I still have to do the other side.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2016 | 02:27 PM
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But the needle bearing rotates around the stub when in 4x2 and they are both rotating together in 4x4 so I would think the opposite would be true?

you are correct, my appologies. i was thinking the way a standard spindle worked on a dana 60 solid front axle where the hub bearings turned around the spindle that incased the needle bearings, where the unit bearings the spindle actually rotates allthe time instead.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2016 | 03:10 PM
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you are correct, my appologies. i was thinking the way a standard spindle worked on a dana 60 solid front axle where the hub bearings turned around the spindle that incased the needle bearings, where the unit bearings the spindle actually rotates allthe time instead.
No apologies needed, I even had to backtrack in my mind to make sure what I put was correct!
 
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