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Looking at F350s with 460, any year better? Other things to consider?

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Originally Posted by Rubenk
Looking again, I just crossed my numbers I guess, 5200 vs 3500 axles. Regardless, I plan on buying a trailer intended for the weight.

You answered my root question with your final statement though, thanks.
Not sure where you are but I have heard of people registering trailers for more weight, I know as farmers we can do that but we get alot of leeway as farmers

I know at work we have a tandem dually trailer rated at 9,999 pounds and another rated at 16k pounds I believe, the lower rated one is for getting small tractors and skid loaders without a cdl
 
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Originally Posted by blue924.9
Not sure where you are but I have heard of people registering trailers for more weight, I know as farmers we can do that but we get alot of leeway as farmers

I know at work we have a tandem dually trailer rated at 9,999 pounds and another rated at 16k pounds I believe, the lower rated one is for getting small tractors and skid loaders without a cdl
You can reduce the GVW, you cannot raise it

The axles are what they go by, but yeas, many people take a 10,000+ trailer and reduce ti to 9,999 to get under the CDL
 
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Never heard of this 10k trailer limit for a CDL, didnt even consider it honestly. Guess thats something I should look into as well...
 
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Never heard of this 10k trailer limit for a CDL, didnt even consider it honestly. Guess thats something I should look into as well...
It varies state to state
 
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It varies state to state
Yea, been reading into it a lot lately just due to being curious, I'll probably be using a trailer later this year for business use.

Some states go as far as to say that if you have a trailer over 10k, you're automatically commercial, require a DOT number and CDL.

But federally, 26,000 down is non cdl, 26,001 + is CDL. The 10,000 trailer limit applies only if you are using it commercially. For your own private use (even the term private use is up for debate), only the 26,000 GCVW applies, aside from a couple gotchas.

You really have to find out your own state laws.. There is no rhyme or reason state to state it seems. Plus there are some really asinine laws out there, especially on the East coast it seems.
 
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Yea, been reading into it a lot lately just due to being curious, I'll probably be using a trailer later this year for business use.

Some states go as far as to say that if you have a trailer over 10k, you're automatically commercial, require a DOT number and CDL.

But federally, 26,000 down is non cdl, 26,001 + is CDL. The 10,000 trailer limit applies only if you are using it commercially. For your own private use (even the term private use is up for debate), only the 26,000 GCVW applies, aside from a couple gotchas.

You really have to find out your own state laws.. There is no rhyme or reason state to state it seems. Plus there are some really asinine laws out there, especially on the East coast it seems.
Exactly. Same goes for some states enforcing towing limits and weighing pickups with trailers. I've never seen a pickup with a travel trailer or 5th wheel on highway scales, even the big 45ft ones. In California that is.
 
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Old 01-31-2016, 08:50 PM
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Was gonna say, i've trailered all sorts of stuff weighing over 10k and never once been bothered. Lots of friends do the same frequently and none with a CDL.

I used to be up on CDL laws, but only for the trucks, as I had a Deuce and a half. Certain years, and then the 5 tons and up needed a CDL. Would love another big truck like those some day. 5 ton on 53's, mmmmm
 
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If the truck is CDL(26,001+) and you tow a 10k trailer you need an A
If it is 9,999 then you only need B


If the truck is 26,000 or less, no CDL needed(just for the truck) but some states say if you ad a trailer of 10k+ you need an A
 
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In Connecticut, GCVWR (Gross Combined Vehicle Weight Rating) < 26,000 doesn't require a CDL. A straight truck with a GVWR of 26,000+ requires a Class B. A truck/trailer combo with a combined weight rating of greater than 26,000 requires a Class A. A ton of local landscapers were pinched by the DOT here for pulling 12,000 GVW trailers behind F-450/ 550s with a Class C license. In CT its a serious fine; the DOT here is pretty strict and they are seemingly omnipresent.
 
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Well, legal limitations aside. I'm still confident the truck can tow what i'd be asking of it.

The search continues...
 
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Originally Posted by Rubenk
Well, legal limitations aside. I'm still confident the truck can tow what i'd be asking of it.

The search continues...
Yes I think the truck can handle it though might break the bank on gas mileage but it's probably the legal issues more to worry of.

Aside from that I'm still eager and patiently waiting on your finds. Also, I'm curious to anyone on here how well the older F350s with 460 tow? What is the max everyone has done with their trucks? Perhaps that's a thread on its own to be started but let us know how yours does when you do in fact get one.
 
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Originally Posted by Irish19614x4
Yes I think the truck can handle it though might break the bank on gas mileage but it's probably the legal issues more to worry of.

Aside from that I'm still eager and patiently waiting on your finds. Also, I'm curious to anyone on here how well the older F350s with 460 tow? What is the max everyone has done with their trucks? Perhaps that's a thread on its own to be started but let us know how yours does when you do in fact get one.
My 460 truck tows OK. BUT the 3.55s and 35s dont help it none. Also my diesel would blow its doors off towing
 
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Originally Posted by Diesel_Brad
My 460 truck tows OK. BUT the 3.55s and 35s dont help it none. Also my diesel would blow its doors off towing
Very nice but in comparison a Diesel Vs. Gas isn't fair and a no brainer that it would tow more.

Thanks for the photo trucks look great!
 
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Yea I know a newer diesel would out tow it in a heartbeat, but i'm not buying an additional diesel.

Hell i'd be tempted to just drag the OBS around on the trailer to events as my rescue truck, LOL
 
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Originally Posted by Irish19614x4
Very nice but in comparison a Diesel Vs. Gas isn't fair and a no brainer that it would tow more.

Thanks for the photo trucks look great!
Why? The supercharged 460 truck makes more power than the diesel truck on the trailer
 
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