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Jan 26, 2016 | 11:38 AM

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dixie460

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Originally Posted by Thedonk

that is a very good idea lol what all parts would that include??? i was already going to do moog tie rods & i would like to get all moog parts so that i have a lifetime warrenty

That includes pivot bushings and radius arm bushings at a minimum. Tie rods too as you mentioned. And if your springs are tired and sagging then you might as well replace them too because with the TTB any change in spring height will affect camber which is one of the reasons TTB is a PITA.

You could also do sway bar bushings if you need to because they wear out and rattle/creak, but those will not affect your alignment.

Jan 26, 2016 | 12:16 PM

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Mine has the one off external manual hubs so it came with these

I am eventually changing it to the more common type so I picked up the front axle assembly from an '86 F-150.

Jan 26, 2016 | 12:48 PM

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82F100SWB

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Don't try and baby some more miles out of a bad wheel bearing, you'll just take out the spindle too and cost yourself more money.
Camber change in reverse is normal, and it is greatly exaggerated when the truck is lifted.

Jan 26, 2016 | 02:10 PM

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fordf350man

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Shake the steering wheel left and right hard when the truck is off. If a lot of side to side movement you need the pivot bushings if very little then pivot bushings maybe fine. Take a crow bar to the ball joints while the truck is on the ground. Lift front end of the truck and give the pitman arms and radius arms a good wiggle to see if any movement. Replace what is needing to be replaced.

Pivot beam bushings can be a huge PIA to get out the old ones out. I ended up leaving the metal sleeve in place since it was straight and had no damage since I was replacing before the rubber was totally gone. Use energy suspension or moog parts.

I would take it to another shop to get a 2nd opinion which sounds like what you are doing.

Its already been said but on these TTBs a death wobble can be caused by a number of things and I learned recently about the TTB or ibeam camber being off when in reverse as well!

Jan 27, 2016 | 08:31 PM

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firegod33

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If you have a wheel bearing that you know is on its way out, DO NOT try to get more miles out of it. When they fail, they do so very quickly and catastrophically. The wheel can separate from the vehicle, taking the brakes with it.

Jan 28, 2016 | 07:47 AM

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HrdDrv

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Dealt with the results of a bearing failure when a 53' van trailer (think GreatDane), came in to the repair shop. Front tandem bearing seized on the spindle, ripping it all off and the tandem wheels, still bolted together, took the brakes, and the spindle and run off like a teenager on a first date. Thankfully, no human casualties, but we never saw the hardware again. Trailer was at speed when it happened.

Jan 28, 2016 | 11:45 AM

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timbersteel

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I totally agree on fixing a failing wheel bearing.

Have you ever seen a truck or car with a grenaded front wheel assembly? Eveer seen a tire come off at 60+ mph? It actually goes faster when its not connected to your truck and you see it then the front end crashes down and destroys the spindle, upper and lower ball joints, the rotor, the caliper, the tie rod end..

Wow!! The $$$$ just keep going higher in repair and replacement. Oh, you'll need another alignment when you get all that replaced.

My ex wife drove for several weeks with a moaning sound from the passenger side front of our 2000 Expedition. I was in the passenger side and noticed it the minute she started driving. She said it had been doing it for awhile....REALLY?...so got back, pulled it and the wheel bearing hub was hot and grinding... I wonder how much longer it would have lasted on just " SOUND" alone?....

Jan 30, 2016 | 08:02 PM

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Thedonk

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sorry i actually was wrong when i said wheel bearing.. i meant spindle because i tie has a very slight wobble vertically... my wheel bearings are good tho, no noise and when i took it apart a month ago i regreased everything