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Old Jan 23, 2016 | 05:22 PM
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Sounds like you have a zf swap in your future Byron! Do it do it!!
 
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Old Jan 23, 2016 | 08:07 PM
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I'd be interested in your JW if you decide to switch! Lol.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2016 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by BBslider001
I'd actually like it for better power transfer!

I was pulling a 23K trailer moving down to AZ and forgot to flip the switch off. Several miles later the trans started slipping. I think I was at exit zero!




 
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Old Jan 23, 2016 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by oldbird1965
I was pulling a 23K trailer moving down to AZ and forgot to flip the switch off. Several miles later the trans started slipping. I think I was at exit zero!
Uh oh, really? What would cause it to slip if it was locked?
 
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Old Jan 23, 2016 | 08:50 PM
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I've noticed that if I'm coasting downhill in Drive and tap the brakes, the TC unlocks. It feels almost like shifting to neutral and the tach drops down to around idle speed.
Are you turning off overdrive, or even shifting to 2? That will give you more engine braking with or without the torque converter being locked.

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except it would unlock when engine speed went below say 1,000 RPM?
Don't lock or keep it locked below 1300 RPM. The pump doesn't have enough output to keep the clutch from slipping below 1300 RPM.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2016 | 08:53 PM
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Maybe the disks in the trans, IDK. But my rpm's were fluculating and it was getting hot. Let it cool and the trans was good after that. All I can say is ask John, I have a feeling he wouldn't like it! But of course, IDK!
 
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Old Jan 23, 2016 | 08:56 PM
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I just saw your post Mark, I was probably 2,000 rpm.


Edit: this wasn't my John Woods trans, I was working it really hard with that load.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2016 | 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Kovalsky
Are you turning off overdrive, or even shifting to 2? That will give you more engine braking with or without the torque converter being locked.
I drive down a gradual hill every day and it's not steep enough to be a braking problem so I just keep the transmission in drive without turning off overdrive. I just mentioned about the torque converter unlocking when I tap the brakes because I thought it was interesting.

Yes, when I need more engine braking on steep hills I turn off overdrive and shift to second and if it's really steep I shift to 4WD Low.

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Don't lock or keep it locked below 1300 RPM. The pump doesn't have enough output to keep the clutch from slipping below 1300 RPM.
That's good to know. Thanks
 
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Old Jan 26, 2016 | 05:53 AM
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I put a switch on my torque convertor lockup when I put a switch on my EBPV. I don't need them or use them unless I'm towing down a steep grade. My brakes thanked me for the help.


My MO for using them: when approaching a down grade, I disable OD to get into third. If that's not enough, I shift to second. If that's not enough, I flip the torque converter lockup switch. If that's not enough, I engage the EBPV. If that's not enough, I shift to first. If that's not enough, I use the brakes. If that's not enough, I look for the truck emergency stop exits. If that's not enough, well, I'll just need to improvise cause that would be uncharted territory for me.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2016 | 09:12 AM
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haha, why didn't you say that its time to bend over and kiss your a** good bye! LOL
 
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Old Jan 26, 2016 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Airstreamer67
If that's not enough, well, I'll just need to improvise cause that would be uncharted territory for me.
If first gear, converter locked, EBPV closed, and the brakes aren't enough, you've driven off a cliff!
 
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Old Jan 26, 2016 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Kovalsky
If first gear, converter locked, EBPV closed, and the brakes aren't enough, you've driven off a cliff!


My thoughts exactly
 
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Old Jan 27, 2016 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark Kovalsky
In fact, some of the production software keeps the converter locked when coasting. This is no different than what Ford had in production.
Interesting. Is this why on my 96 I have to tap the brakes to get the TC to unlock, but on my 97 I just have to left off the throttle?


Question 2, If you are using the TC-lock switch for extra braking and you need to downshift, should the TC be unlocked before shifting? OR can you just leave it locked in?
 
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Old Jan 27, 2016 | 12:20 PM
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Interesting. Is this why on my 96 I have to tap the brakes to get the TC to unlock, but on my 97 I just have to left off the throttle?


Question 2, If you are using the TC-lock switch for extra braking and you need to downshift, should the TC be unlocked before shifting? OR can you just leave it locked in?
I have this same question Phil. Poor Mark with all us newbie kooks on the E4OD
 
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Old Jan 27, 2016 | 09:09 PM
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Interesting. Is this why on my 96 I have to tap the brakes to get the TC to unlock, but on my 97 I just have to left off the throttle?
Yes it is.
Originally Posted by cowmilker08
Question 2, If you are using the TC-lock switch for extra braking and you need to downshift, should the TC be unlocked before shifting? OR can you just leave it locked in?
You can leave it locked. It will be smoother if you unlock it.
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I have this same question Phil. Poor Mark with all us newbie kooks on the E4OD
 
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