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Old Jan 15, 2016 | 12:29 PM
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7.3 engine build advice

I'm currently in the process of stripping down the 7.3 block and heads to be sent to the machine shop to me decked surfaced and vatted

I'm shooting for a 550hp to 600 hp engine. I'll be adding

Stage 2 injectors
Arp head studs
Melling lpop
Aftermarket hpop
Regulated fuel return
Built stock turbo (360 bearings, 1.00 ar housing, ported intake housing, wheel, adjustable waste gate.)
EBPV delete
Non EBPV petistol
High flow turbo outlet
Intake heater delete
6.0 trans cooler
And tuning will be done by DP tuner

I'll also he reusing the stock forges rods.

My question would be what other parts would be nessasary or recommended and what other advice you might have for this build?
 
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Old Jan 15, 2016 | 12:51 PM
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pushrods and valve springs
 
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Old Jan 15, 2016 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by jgilrfr
pushrods and valve springs
What brand and type?
 
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Old Jan 15, 2016 | 02:12 PM
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injector size will determine and hp will determine what size spring,the injector supplier should know better than I do
 
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Old Jan 15, 2016 | 02:54 PM
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Will a "built" stock turbo support 550 HP?
 
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Old Jan 15, 2016 | 04:09 PM
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I'd get your rods Magnafluxed for peace of mind... and of course new bolts.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2016 | 04:16 PM
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i think the turbo will be the choke point
 
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Old Jan 15, 2016 | 06:20 PM
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Agreed a T-4 maybe for those numbers. Thats a large number. even on gas builds thats going to cost money.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2016 | 07:25 PM
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Look at Irate Diesels Build site. They give you step by step parts for 500+ and 600+ HP motors.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2016 | 08:42 PM
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powerstrokehelp dot com, ive heard a lot of crap about the the guy but all I see is knowledge, experience and reason. He has many 7.3 build vids to watch, worth looking at.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2016 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 7.3Excursion4x4
Look at Irate Diesels Build site. They give you step by step parts for 500+ and 600+ HP motors.
Good advice.

'Stage 2' injectors and a stock-type turbo will not get you to 500hp.

There are much better tuners out there and far better places to get advice for this type of build.

Some things to consider for your build. 'Cut' and coated pistons. We machine the protruding lip off the piston bowl, then have the piston tops ceramic coated and the skirts teflon coated. If the block decks have to be machined, also have the pistons cut down. Never compromise with oversized gaskets. You'll need to install the pistons and measure protrusion to do this. I'll think of more later...

I might look at the KC38R turbo as a drop-in option up to 500hp. This rebuildable BB turbo and a set of dorman up-pipes are several $100 cheaper than a T4 kit and you can always sell it if ya do want to go bigger in the future.

An automatic transmission will need some love at anything over about 300hp. If you want some assurance that the next boosted launch won't land you on the back of a tow truck - get a BTS (or JW's) transmission. You can throw a valve body in your tired old tranny or have some local shop add some extra clutches and a 'shift kit' (Transgo Tugger kit) - but your chances of not driving home one day are still pretty high.

I am building a +500hp 6spd work truck (F450) right now. It will get hybrid injectors (at least 250/100's, but we might use B-code springs (higher VOP) and go as big as 300/200's.... ). Planning on using cryo'ed forged rods, head studs, 910 valve springs, chromoly pushrods, Adrenaline HPOP, T4/S369sxe with wastegate, ported and polished heads, Stage 1 cam, stock all-alum CAC, Southbend dual-disk street clutch and powder coat/paint everything. It will have a STOCK fuel system except for in-tank mods and Racor PS120 pre-pump filter. Tuning will be by Gearhead. The S369sxe will limit peak HP, but we are looking for something that lights the turbo down low for the 6spd so we can have lots of power and no smoke.

Also, gauges are kinda standard for this level of build. For me that means at least fuel pressure, EGT and boost. I like the Aeroforce Scangauge in the 4rth position because it allows you to monitor ICP, IPR Duty Cycle and any other parameter the PCM uses. It also does Buzz Test and CCT.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2016 | 11:29 PM
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Ok I will check out the sites y'all told me about.
And what would be the ballpark hp level with the current list of mods I used earlier?
And I already have gauges
Egt,trans,boost, icp,duty cycle,

I also plan to go with a BTS trans after the engine build
 
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Old Jan 16, 2016 | 05:42 AM
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From what you posted, your looking at about 350hp. I was able to break 500hp, but it cost me 25k to build.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2016 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Meydawg51
Ok I will check out the sites y'all told me about.
And what would be the ballpark hp level with the current list of mods I used earlier?
And I already have gauges
Egt,trans,boost, icp,duty cycle,

I also plan to go with a BTS trans after the engine build
160/80's and stock turbo with 1.0 exhaust housing and aftermarket compressor wheel can get ya up to about 400rwhp. Honestly, that is a great power level and very little supporting mods req'd. I'd probably still use headstuds on a fresh build just because.

If you are keeping the stock turbo, do the EBPV delete on your pedestal and turbo outlet for $0.50. Replacing the pedestal and outlet is a waste of money... Do away with the Wastegate too, no need for this either. You'll be abusing this turbo no matter what - so just save the money for a better charger. If I was doing a budget build, I'd run a van turbo with high-flow outlet and aftermarket comp wheel. This combo flows almost as much air as 38R and the 1.15 AR ex housing keeps drive pressure in check better than 1.0 or stock .84 housing in factory turbo.

No matter what, you'll want new up-pipes. I've been using Dorman bellowed up-pipes the last couple of years. Good quality, lifetime warranty and under $200 (as low as $150).

The KC38R would probably be a good drop in option and can reportedly handle 500hp.
 
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http://cncfabricationllc.com/index.php/products/powerstroke-99-03/99-03-turbos-components-mounts/kc-turbos-kc38r-l99-03.html
 
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