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Old Jan 6, 2016 | 03:03 PM
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I am about to pull the plug on a new truck. I have a 2011 F150 ecoboost pulling a 31 foot 5th wheel. I am wanting a F250 but not a diesel. The camper weighs around 9,000 lbs with a pin weight of 1100 lbs. We only use the camper about 5 times a year in a 200 mile radius. Will I be satisfied with the 250 gas engine?
 
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Old Jan 6, 2016 | 05:50 PM
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I have a 2012.. 6.2L Gas. and a travel trailer at 9,000 loaded.. plus I have 1,500 in the bed... and a tongue weight of 1,100 ...

last month pulled it 800 miles... and my truck has 140,000 miles... averaged 9 mpg..
going thru.. WV,V,NC,SC.. hills.

and I am still on vacation.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2016 | 06:12 PM
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I do not know much about the ecoboost from personal experience, but a friend pulls 14k equipment trailer with tractors around with his and says it does better than any gas motor his has ever owned.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2016 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin-Beth Jones
I am about to pull the plug on a new truck. I have a 2011 F150 ecoboost pulling a 31 foot 5th wheel. I am wanting a F250 but not a diesel. The camper weighs around 9,000 lbs with a pin weight of 1100 lbs. We only use the camper about 5 times a year in a 200 mile radius. Will I be satisfied with the 250 gas engine?
I have had my 2015 F250 with the 6.2 and 4.30 gears for just over a year now and I am very pleased with it. I have only towed pull behind trailers that weighed in near 6,000 pounds, but the truck handled them beautifully in the Colorado mountains. I am looking to purchase a fifth wheel in March or so that sounds similar to what you are currently pulling. I am not sure how much difference the 4.30 gears make over the 3.73s that you are likely to find on a lot, but I think you would likely be happy with the overall package. The gas engine in the F250 will require more revs to do the same job as the EcoBoost that you currently have, but the engine isn't all that noisy and sounds pretty good IMO.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2016 | 07:43 AM
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most likely the 5th wheel is at or past the limits of the F150. Plus the pin wt is probably at the limits for the rear axle.

A F250 with 4.30 gears would be perfect for this situation.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2016 | 09:49 AM
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We are out on the road now and it is really hard to miss the move to F150s and similar models from other OEMs. I have spoken directly with a number of owners towing about 9,000 GVW and though they may have no idea as to pin weights, etc., I have not talked with anyone who has a problem with gasser power.

One of my dealers also had changed over entirely to gassers towing back from the repo auctions and is towing some 40-footers with no complaints. He used diesels for years, but says he is never going back.

I am sure there are differences of opinion, but the days when duallies and diesel were the norm looks like it increasingly in the rear view mirror. Again just based on my observations.

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Old Jan 9, 2016 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Kevin-Beth Jones
I am about to pull the plug on a new truck. I have a 2011 F150 ecoboost pulling a 31 foot 5th wheel. I am wanting a F250 but not a diesel. The camper weighs around 9,000 lbs with a pin weight of 1100 lbs. We only use the camper about 5 times a year in a 200 mile radius. Will I be satisfied with the 250 gas engine?
IMO and from my experience you will have no problem with the 6.2 gas motor pulling your rig but I would highly recommend that you order one with 4.30 gears, I say order because the chances of finding one set to pull on a lot are about as good as winning the lottery . And just in case you want to go with a larger trailer in the future you may want to consider a F350.

Denny
 
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Old Jan 10, 2016 | 09:53 AM
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For stability the F250 will be a night and day difference over the F150. I owned a 2011 F150 Ecoboost and towed our 8000lb trailer over 8000 miles with it. After towing with the Ecoboost and being use to that low torque(420lb/ft at 2500rpms) I'd be willing to bet you won't like the way the 6.2L pulls your trailer. The 6.2L produces basically the same hp/torque #'s as the Ecoboost but at a much higher rpm. Now you have to factor in the extra weight of the F250 which will not help your performance. But will definitely help with extra stability. The 6.2L will not have any problem towing your 9,000lb trailer, it just will not feel as effortless as the Ecoboost. Plus if it's your daily driver the 6.2L won't come close to the Ecoboost's MPG.
I was in your shoes two years ago. I ended up taking a step back in time and found a one owner pristine 2001 f350 Powerstroke and couldn't be happier.
Best of luck with your choice,
Kevin
 
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Old Jan 10, 2016 | 11:33 AM
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I know it's not the same set up - I made the trip back and forth New Jersey - Florida a dozen times towing this trailer, all of the weights put the trailer between 9600 & 1045 pounds. Never a problem !

Gas, 4x4, automatic, 3.73.




Trailer loaded weighed in at 9800 pounds. <br/>


 
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Old Jan 10, 2016 | 11:37 AM
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I meant all of the scale weights put the trailer between 9600 & 10045 pounds. I weighed the trailer each trip just for my own knowledge.

You should be very happy with the 6.2 gas engine.
 
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Originally Posted by EcoboostKev
For stability the F250 will be a night and day difference over the F150. I owned a 2011 F150 Ecoboost and towed our 8000lb trailer over 8000 miles with it. After towing with the Ecoboost and being use to that low torque(420lb/ft at 2500rpms) I'd be willing to bet you won't like the way the 6.2L pulls your trailer. The 6.2L produces basically the same hp/torque #'s as the Ecoboost but at a much higher rpm. Now you have to factor in the extra weight of the F250 which will not help your performance. But will definitely help with extra stability. The 6.2L will not have any problem towing your 9,000lb trailer, it just will not feel as effortless as the Ecoboost. Plus if it's your daily driver the 6.2L won't come close to the Ecoboost's MPG.
I was in your shoes two years ago. I ended up taking a step back in time and found a one owner pristine 2001 f350 Powerstroke and couldn't be happier.
Best of luck with your choice,
Kevin
Finally someone talking some sense. I've been towing heavy trailers since I started driving 25 years ago. I have towed with all three diesels, 6.0 and 8.1 Vortec and the Ford V10. Gassers DO NOT tow anything like a diesel when you are talking heavier trailers. JMO
 
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Old Jan 11, 2016 | 08:40 PM
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I couldn't be happier with the way my 6.0 tows my 5er....a few light mods and the thing has 770 ft. lbs of torque..... I don't lose 1mph nor does it change gears going up massive hills...there is plenty of power in reserve.... None of us are racing with 5th wheel campers, but the ability to not change gears or loose any speed up inclines is worth the price of Diesel for me.
 
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Originally Posted by Kevin-Beth Jones
I am about to pull the plug on a new truck. I have a 2011 F150 ecoboost pulling a 31 foot 5th wheel. I am wanting a F250 but not a diesel. The camper weighs around 9,000 lbs with a pin weight of 1100 lbs. We only use the camper about 5 times a year in a 200 mile radius. Will I be satisfied with the 250 gas engine?
I just came out of an EB and into my F250 6.2. I drive easy mixed driving. My 6.2 is anywhere from 10-13mpg. My ECO was 14-18mpg same driving. While at only 2000 miles, I'm still missing my EB. The EB has so much more low end power and simply just feels like so much more motor than the 6.2 and gets a lot better mpgs. I have towed with both, the EB ripped our 10k skidsteer around, the 6.2 feels like there are 3 of them back there. Now, I love the SD and I do appreciate the reliability and simplicity of the 6.2. I really need a F250 for work and I won't own another diesel again, so there really isn't an option. I am satisfied with mine for now. It is growing on me more everyday though. If Ford will put the ECO in the 2018 F250....well that's where I will be.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2016 | 07:43 AM
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I just came out of an EB and into my F250 6.2. I drive easy mixed driving. My 6.2 is anywhere from 10-13mpg. My ECO was 14-18mpg same driving. While at only 2000 miles, I'm still missing my EB. The EB has so much more low end power and simply just feels like so much more motor than the 6.2 and gets a lot better mpgs. I have towed with both, the EB ripped our 10k skidsteer around, the 6.2 feels like there are 3 of them back there. Now, I love the SD and I do appreciate the reliability and simplicity of the 6.2. I really need a F250 for work and I won't own another diesel again, so there really isn't an option. I am satisfied with mine for now. It is growing on me more everyday though. If Ford will put the ECO in the 2018 F250....well that's where I will be.
You have to consider the weight diff. between a 150 and 250. What you can put in the bed of a Super Duty would cripple a 150.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2016 | 08:07 AM
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Camper Package on F250 w 6.2L

I bought a 2015 f-250 crew cab with the 6.2L V8. I am looking to upgrade from a travel trailer to a 5th wheel. I was curious if the camper package adds and capacity for my "pin weight"? It looks like the truck is rated to tow around 12100 to 12400. Any help is greatly appreciated.

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