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Old Jan 7, 2016 | 09:31 AM
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If you have one of the stock MAF housings from the Mustang installed in your truck, then you should be able to match one up. Otherwise, maybe there is a part number on the one that was working before the submarine experiment that you can reference.

There are many ways to setup a MAF in a housing...the MAF can be calibrated for the housing. If not then a calibration tube can be used around the sensor to limit sampling to a certain amount of air in a housing. Alternatively you can just stick the MAF in the housing and tune your MAF curve.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2016 | 10:55 AM
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I was working on it last night, tested the fuel pressure, reset the computer, was going to check the timing because I had been meaning to.

And you know how I said my spark plugs were fine.............They weren't. #1 had cracked porcelain and was leaking spark. Went down and got a set of plugs and it cured the cough. I think its still down on power a bit but at least it runs smooth.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2016 | 02:36 PM
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91 F150 XLT Lariat, 4x4, MAF and 351w swap, running an A9L ECM
Truck Performer 5.8 Intake manifold, GT40 heads, long tubes
Hey Bovaloe. Does your truck run pretty good with the edelbrock intake and GT40 heads? I have heard some on here say it does not. I have the intake still deciding on the heads. My truck is SD at the moment though. I want to do a MAF conversion some day.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2016 | 02:42 PM
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Hey Bovaloe. Does your truck run pretty good with the edelbrock intake and GT40 heads? I have heard some on here say it does not. I have the intake still deciding on the heads. My truck is SD at the moment though. I want to do a MAF conversion some day.
It runs great, lots of power. I havent had any problems with the head/intake portion of all the mods.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2016 | 02:46 PM
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It runs great, lots of power. I havent had any problems with the head/intake portion of all the mods.
Had you done the MAF conversion before using that head/intake combo? I am not sure how my SD truck will react and don't want to spend another $500 on a conversion kit to make it run right after I do the work (I can't find a donor truck for less than that so I was looking at the eBay seller who sells the overlap wiring harness with refurb ECU and MAF sensor. Last I checked he was asking $500). And still haven't found the heads cheap. GT40Ps all day but few GT40s at a decent price point.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2016 | 04:05 PM
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I did it all at once, pulled a complete engine harness, sensors, ECU, etc off a junkyard pickup. Had to re-pin the connector when I started running the mustang ECU.

I think the GT40P heads are pretty comparable, performance wise, you would need different headers is all. I think that was the main difference, don't quote me on that though.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2016 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Bovaloe
I did it all at once, pulled a complete engine harness, sensors, ECU, etc off a junkyard pickup. Had to re-pin the connector when I started running the mustang ECU.

I think the GT40P heads are pretty comparable, performance wise, you would need different headers is all. I think that was the main difference, don't quote me on that though.
Yes I have considered the GT40P heads but then I would need long tubes. Which I could do since my truck is 2wd. I already put some cheap shortys on there but not really looking to redo the exhaust since I already paid for a new walker off road y-pipe ($250 after MIR) to go with the shortys and get rid of the torpedo cat a couple months ago. Oddly enough my MPG slightly diminished after the install of the y pipe and new cats (shortys where on previously) but it is winter now since the installation and I have been starting and warming the truck up a bit before driving it down the road so I think that might account for the loss considering its dumping fuel until it gets warm enough. We will see once summer is here.

I have the intake but to pay $200-$300 for GT40Ps, another $500-$600 for some good long tubes with EGR hookup, and another $500 for a MAF set-up is a lot of bones at one time.... that's not even including the custom exhaust I would then need. I need to at least wait to do all this for the truck to be 25 years old so I can get rid of the cats and not worry about them when getting a custom exhaust. I just got into a payment to buy my new truck so I don't have the excess cash I did. Was nice having a paid off car for a year until I wrecked it.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2016 | 05:08 PM
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Yes I have considered the GT40P but then I would need long tubes. Which I could do since my truck is 2wd. I already put some cheap shortys on there but not really looking to redo the exhaust since I already paid for a new walker off road y-pipe to go with the shortys and get rid of the torpedo cat recently. Oddly enough my MPG slightly diminished after the install but it is winter now since the installation and I have been starting and warming the truck up a bit before driving it down the road so I think that might account for the loss. We will see once summer is here.

I have the intake but to pay $200-$300 for GT40P, another $500-$600 for some good long tubes with EGR hookup, and another $500 for a MAF set-up is a lot of bones at one time.... that's not even including the custom exhuast I would then need. I need to at least wait to do all this for the truck to be 25 years old so I can get rid of the cats and not worry about them when getting a custom exhaust.
Why do you need all that exhaust work?
 
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Old Jan 7, 2016 | 05:10 PM
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Why do you need all that exhaust work?
Why did I need? Or why would I need? GT40P heads have a different spark plug angle so they will not work with most shorty headers and definitely not with stock manifolds. I believe the GT40 3 bar heads will work with any and all.

I wanted the walker off road y-pipe with cats because the old torpedo cat I hear is restrictive and it also hangs so freaking low while this one is nice and tucked up in between the frame rails. Only downside is I have a 1 O2 sensor set-up and the walker was set-up for one on each bank since the Y goes into the first cat. So I only have the single O2 sensor in the passenger side. If drivers side is running lean I won't know. I am not sure if I can convert to a 2 O2 sensor set-up. I believe its easy to make a 2 O2 sensor set-up into a 1 though. Also my dad let this truck run rich for so long that the torpedo CAT was at the end of its life.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2016 | 05:32 PM
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I just wonder why the GT40s would not run good with a edelbrock truck performer intake even if truck is SD. Does it change the compression? I know that they only add around 20-40 HP so its not a huge bolt on difference.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2016 | 11:06 AM
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It doesnt change the compression noticeably I dont think but the intake has quite a bit longer runners and that might throw the computer off.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2016 | 11:18 AM
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What did you end up doing with emissions stuff? I already did a smog pump delete so no issues with the GT40 heads not having the holes for the smog tubes.

I still have my EGR hooked up with these shorty headers but if I go the GT40P head route I think I am going to ditch it and block it off at the upper intake but leave it hooked up electronically and to vacuum to avoid a CEL. I am only thinking this since long tubes with out the EGR tube hookup are cheaper and a bunch more plentiful.

Also what about the PCV system? Did you leave that intact? I am not sure if it would be bad on these EFI trucks to just put a old school vent on it and let it go into the atmosphere vs pushing used oil into my new intake. What did you do?
 
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Old Jan 8, 2016 | 11:35 AM
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I put a penny in the bottom of the EGR and left it hooked up to the intake.

I still have the PCV system plumbed into the bottom of the upper intake. It does push oil in, pretty sure I didnt get my rings seated well enough when I broke in the new engine so its got some blowby
 
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