Wow! I didn't know that!
thanks!

 

Just having some fun, relax. Your input is always welcome to further discussion and offer new ideas.

 

Same here. With it on, I've had it kill the throttle when turning from a main road onto a side road, and have to gun it a bit to get through the little snow berm that the town plow leaves. It's an annoying system.

 

my opinion.. the systems are in place because 85 percent of the motoring public can not drive in Good weather.. or BAD Weather..

 

^^^^X10^^^^

Big brother is everywhere.

That's why I will always have a pre 1969, 1970 vehicle in the stable at all times! 1/8 mile Burnouts, doughnuts, brody's, hole shots, brake stands etc... strongly encouraged as daily therapy. ZERO big brother intervention!
I once skinned my knees...guess what???? I learned all by myself how to avoid skinning said knees without the intervention of scourge ambulance chasing lawyers or big brother. Freeman here, doin my best to keep it that way...

 

100% of the motoring public is incapable of braking individual wheels to control a skid. The same percentage of people who claim to have never lost control are either woefully inexperienced or lying.

 

I will admit that I have lost control.

Good judgement comes from learning from your bad decisions.

 

100 percent correct.. both accounts...

Anticipation... training, skills, practice.practice.practice. is helpful.

 

I like the fact that a safety net is always at its best for times when I'm not, and highway safety statistics would suggest the same. I've never met anyone who wasn't an above-average driver either.

I'm not always perfect, and I like the fact that my truck is capable of sensing and taking action for when things get messy.

 

Everyone does what their comfortable with. There's got to be a reason that manufacturers put a button on these things to temporarily disable it. I just happen to be one of the people who choose to use that button every so often. When the truck is shut off and then restarted, TC is active once again.
I'd never suggest pulling a fuse or tampering with "black boxes" to defeat it permanently or continuously. As you state, we're all not always on high alert and sometimes these systems might just bail us out of something. Even if we don't always realize it.

 

I'd agree with that Poncho. I like horsing around from time to time, and I like the ability to shut it off from time to time. My point is simply that the technology serves a purpose, and that everyone can benefit from this kind of thing in the right circumstances. Even those perfect drivers among us who are clearly better off without any sort of electronic intervention.

 

OK, look into "F1" racing.. maybe the best drivers....they have Computer assistance for car control.

but every One can LEARN to drive better for every day driving.

I also like having electronics helping keep me Right when I might be having an OFF day. and WE ALL have an off day every once and awhile.

Have any of you.. gone to "Track Day" at a local road race track..??????
aka,,, Mid-Ohio. Nelson Ledges... I have ... Driving classes..

 

At first, I'd leave it on, but it felt like it was throwing off the shift timing or something, even when just feathering the throttle. So now I turn level 1 off every time I get in.. but holding it down longer to turn off level 2, is a pain in the ***, mine feels more like 5 seconds, lol. I bet with both off, it will feel even better at all speeds though.


It is a form of "dummy-proofing", but companies have an obligation to stick with the safety statistics, and 99.9% of people, aren't motoring enthusiasts, and don't know advanced driving techniques. so forcing it on by default every time the vehicle starts, just saves more lives. But for us..it sucks..lol.




Good point! However, their TC and Brake assist systems are very, very different. They're designed to speed you up, not slow you, or stop you. And I heard they've recently removed those systems from the F1 sport, to "enhance" competition between drivers(but in this case, to actually slow things down and make them safer also).


I guess I understand that, because if it was simply a matter of seeing how fast we can make something go, we'd just strap a rocket to it, and set it in a straight line. So yeah, why not turn the performance comp systems off in F1, and see who's got the skills!? I think it was just last year they changed it.

 

I have a 2012 F250 King Ranch 6.7, was pulling a 4place enclosed snowmobile trailer with 4 sleds in it up to my cabin in Northern Minnesota. Winter Blizzard 10" snow white out.When I tried to pull in my driveway (not plowed) I did not have enough power to get through the snow. I locked my front hubs, turned off traction control pulled 4 wheel drive switch out to lock rear end and still could not get enough power to the wheels to pull put, it was like I could hardly spin the tire - power restricted.It is impossible to rock it back and forth to gain traction. My question is does anyone have a fix? like re programming to allow power to wheels?

 

You can hold the traction control button for 10 seconds disable AdvanceTrac, that should allow you to apply full power.

ON edit: Looks like you're only a few minutes from me. I was in St. Francis earlier today with work.