Papaw and Grandson Project 1952 F1
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#47
brake question. installing new brake shoes today on rear axle. the brakes were already off the truck when we bought it. going through boxes I found what I thought was everything. when installing I noticed it did not have the cable and foot for self adjusters. I guess no self adj in 52.
What I am baffled with is what I think is the bottom spring wants to ride right on top of the adj wheel. actually riding on it, this just doesn't seem right to me. I have never worked on a brake system that did not self adj with the cable and foot that rides on the wheel. Anyone got any pictures? Or any pointers thanks js.
What I am baffled with is what I think is the bottom spring wants to ride right on top of the adj wheel. actually riding on it, this just doesn't seem right to me. I have never worked on a brake system that did not self adj with the cable and foot that rides on the wheel. Anyone got any pictures? Or any pointers thanks js.
#48
how odd is this? Like most others we wanted info from the vin plate of our truck.
The manufacture date turns out is Jan.13. The truck is a 1952. I was born on Jan 13,1952! I am thinking this is unbelievable Austin's truck was built the day I was born! Come to find out it was not built in 1952 because the serial number was to high. It appears it was manufactured on Jan 13 1953. Still unique.
The manufacture date turns out is Jan.13. The truck is a 1952. I was born on Jan 13,1952! I am thinking this is unbelievable Austin's truck was built the day I was born! Come to find out it was not built in 1952 because the serial number was to high. It appears it was manufactured on Jan 13 1953. Still unique.
#49
#50
somethings wrong on the rear axle! I just finished reassemble and wanted to move the complete rear axle and springs out of the way and move on. Here is my problem. The left rear brake drum lacks about 3/16" going on all the way. The drum hits the rear axle and the drum just barely does cover the shoes.
I had the axles out and installed new brgs, yes they are on all the way. I installed new seals, completely cleaned and painted all parts and reassembled with new brake shoes .
This is what I know, the old brake shoes rode in the drums in exactly the same place before this truck was torn down. I pulled the rear axles back out and they are the same length, the brgs are on correctly, switched sides with the axles and still have the same problem. the drum hits the axle before the drum slides in closer to the backing plate.
this is on the left side of the axle. I did notice the housing tube is shorter on this side slightly above 1/8" difference?
I am second guessing the depth of the wheel seal and wondering if the brg retainer is hitting against it. However When I pulled it apart the old seal showed no signs of this and I can tell the shoes are riding exactly where they did before.
Anyone been there and seen this before on a Dana 44?
I had the axles out and installed new brgs, yes they are on all the way. I installed new seals, completely cleaned and painted all parts and reassembled with new brake shoes .
This is what I know, the old brake shoes rode in the drums in exactly the same place before this truck was torn down. I pulled the rear axles back out and they are the same length, the brgs are on correctly, switched sides with the axles and still have the same problem. the drum hits the axle before the drum slides in closer to the backing plate.
this is on the left side of the axle. I did notice the housing tube is shorter on this side slightly above 1/8" difference?
I am second guessing the depth of the wheel seal and wondering if the brg retainer is hitting against it. However When I pulled it apart the old seal showed no signs of this and I can tell the shoes are riding exactly where they did before.
Anyone been there and seen this before on a Dana 44?
#52
yes the drums are the same. I measured the backing plate to axle and there is a difference of slightly over 1/8". I am thinking the tube on the left side should have been the same length as the right tube on the rear
end hsg. the measurement I am speaking of is from the backing plate to the receiver on the 3rd member.
I wonder if there is a shim?? This would move the backing plate to close this gap.
I have never seen a shim before but I can't stretch the tube.
end hsg. the measurement I am speaking of is from the backing plate to the receiver on the 3rd member.
I wonder if there is a shim?? This would move the backing plate to close this gap.
I have never seen a shim before but I can't stretch the tube.
#54
yes the drums are the same. I measured the backing plate to axle and there is a difference of slightly over 1/8". I am thinking the tube on the left side should have been the same length as the right tube on the rear
end hsg. the measurement I am speaking of is from the backing plate to the receiver on the 3rd member.
I wonder if there is a shim?? This would move the backing plate to close this gap.
I have never seen a shim before but I can't stretch the tube.
end hsg. the measurement I am speaking of is from the backing plate to the receiver on the 3rd member.
I wonder if there is a shim?? This would move the backing plate to close this gap.
I have never seen a shim before but I can't stretch the tube.
#56
After getting the mystery of the brake drum and backing plate settled (the left rear backing plate was offset slightly, come to find out the numbers on neither side were what the truck called for) Austin and I moved on . We got the cab off and on the floor of the garage. Austin learned how to heat metal with a torch today to straighten the rear cross member which was slightly bent. We got that taken care of. cleaned outside of one frame rail from the front running board bracket to the rear of the frame.
I pulled the inspection cover off the bell housing and confirmed the clutch and pressure plate are new just as the PO told me they were. I also made gaskets for the backing plates. Tim sent me two backing plates yesterday morn from Ca. Might paint them sunshine yellow! In the garage about 5 hrs today. While in there it snowed about 6".
I'll post some updated pics tomorrow.
I pulled the inspection cover off the bell housing and confirmed the clutch and pressure plate are new just as the PO told me they were. I also made gaskets for the backing plates. Tim sent me two backing plates yesterday morn from Ca. Might paint them sunshine yellow! In the garage about 5 hrs today. While in there it snowed about 6".
I'll post some updated pics tomorrow.
#59
We received the backing plates from Tim yesterday. I got the rear axle brakes all reassembled this morning and completed he rear axle.. We moved on to the frame pulled the motor and transmission and removed the front axle. Frank cleaned the rest of the outside frame preparing for paint. I cleaned the front axle and painted it. Tomorrow we will strip the inside and cross members of the frame. And turn it over to get the bottom flange on Thursday, or so the plan goes! Making a little progress!!
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