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Old Dec 29, 2015 | 09:44 AM
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It's the same concept as tongue weight on a trailer. It's good ballast for plowing though
 
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Old Dec 29, 2015 | 10:33 AM
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You are correct. I haven't seen how the truck sits with the plow hooked up and a load of salt. I will check back
 
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Old Dec 29, 2015 | 10:06 PM
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Well I think my squat is noticeable because with the tailgate spreader mounted the weight is out past the end of the truck. That's my main issue here. If the weight was in the bed over the axle or in front of the axle there would be no issue

Thank you for all your input
Ok that makes more sense, it's mounted completely behind the tailgate not in the bed. 1900lbs that far back is well over the standard trailer tongue weight rating and will likely also make the truck lighter in front increasing the appearance of the truck squatting in the back, having the snowplow installed in front will likely make a big difference and put the balance back towards normal.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2015 | 10:19 PM
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Let me just clarify.

The dump insert is 800lbs
Salt Spreader is about 325 unloaded and about 1000 total with a full load of salt

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Old Dec 29, 2015 | 11:20 PM
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Do you have any side pictures of the truck loaded? I know there are a lot of complaints about the softer springs in the newer trucks, my 06 F350 rides like a tank but will hold up 4000lbs like a champ even with the load farther back than I would prefer.


I'm not bragging, just curious about the newer trucks abilities if I were to trade....
 
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Old Dec 30, 2015 | 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by twigsV10
Do you have any side pictures of the truck loaded? I know there are a lot of complaints about the softer springs in the newer trucks, my 06 F350 rides like a tank but will hold up 4000lbs like a champ even with the load farther back than I would prefer.


I'm not bragging, just curious about the newer trucks abilities if I were to trade....
The newer trucks tend to have more squat at the rear axle compared to trucks of the generation we own.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2015 | 06:13 AM
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my 2012 F 250, 6.2L Gas.. with camper and towing packages..

does not squat loaded. sits level. with 1,500 in bed and 1,100 trailer torque weight, using WD bars... and it does ride hard empty..
 
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Old Dec 30, 2015 | 07:03 AM
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Air bags solved the squat while hauling my 5th wheel with about a 2500 pin weight. I'm using the Firestone Ride-Rites who's fittings do NOT leak if cut and assembled correctly. The Air Lifts are well liked by others as too, with their Customer Service guy often chiming in on this site. I also have a set of 1200 pound add a leafs sitting in my garage that have never been installed/not needed which seem to be well made. These were from here: Add a Leaf Kits to Increase Haul and Load Capacity. You'll need to add a set of U-bolts to the cost of the leafs.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2015 | 07:15 AM
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When I've got my 2yd vbox loaded with sand I will keep the plow on to balance it out. Once you mount the plow it will be better. Oh yeah and you won't need 4x4 anymore
 
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Old Dec 31, 2015 | 12:22 AM
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The newer trucks tend to have more squat at the rear axle compared to trucks of the generation we own.
I do believe I'm just going to drive my truck until it can't be saved for now..... I will live with the ride for what the truck can do. I really can't afford or justify a new or one, anyways it's fun to just look.
 
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Old Dec 31, 2015 | 05:35 PM
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Folks,

Enough of the bickering, that's not why we're here. If you want to debate the finer points of air line cutting qualifications do so elsewhere. NOW, back to your regularly scheduled programming...
 
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Old Dec 31, 2015 | 05:36 PM
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I agree, but I wish you would have left the picture for him.
 
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Old Dec 31, 2015 | 11:43 PM
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If it was my truck I would go for air bags, air them up to haul and down when unloaded for a stock or maybe or better ride, best for both situations and in my opinion an a onboard compressor would be worth the money to me.... But it is your truck and your money do what is best for you.
 
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Bags will help support a heavy load, but will not really increase your payload. You never want to exceed your trucks GVWR

https://www.airliftcompany.com/works...capacity-gvwr/
 
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So I decided to go with an air bag setup
One question for guys who have them....
Do you need an on board compressor along with the bag kit ? Looking at the airlift 5000 setups.

Matt
 
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