4.30 Axle availability
Cargo Master
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From: Livermore Ca.
Thats funny about not caring about the 1 to 1.5 loss of MPG with the 4.30"s. I hear all the time about guys wanting to add fuel tanks to there trucks so they don't have to stop for fuel all the time. Going with that low of gear makes no sense if you don't use it to pull anything. 3.73's work just fine around town and since you don't pull around tractors or heavy equipment than you are wasting money on fuel. You will like the performance form the 3.7's also. Spinning the tires is easy even with 3.31's like I have in my deisel. By7 the way. If you have a 26 gallon tank than you lose 26 to 39 miles per tank times how many miles you drive per year. It's almost liker pennies. Put them in a jar and they add up to dollars. Just saying
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Thats funny about not caring about the 1 to 1.5 loss of MPG with the 4.30"s. I hear all the time about guys wanting to add fuel tanks to there trucks so they don't have to stop for fuel all the time. Going with that low of gear makes no sense if you don't use it to pull anything. 3.73's work just fine around town and since you don't pull around tractors or heavy equipment than you are wasting money on fuel. You will like the performance form the 3.7's also. Spinning the tires is easy even with 3.31's like I have in my deisel. By7 the way. If you have a 26 gallon tank than you lose 26 to 39 miles per tank times how many miles you drive per year. It's almost liker pennies. Put them in a jar and they add up to dollars. Just saying
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From: Harned, Ky
Haven't looked at any new trucks in a while (not going to buy one so why look), but a few years back you could get a Ford, Chevy or Dodge with 4.10-4.11 gears. I do understand that a higher rpm gas engine would need a lower gear than a diesel for towing, and that the newer auto trans has a higher OD than my old zf6, but it just sounds like a pretty low gear for all around use.
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From: Isanti, MN
That's old information, true until 2011. There are no 4.11 or 4.10 gears that go into modern Super Duties. The options are 3.73 or 4.30.
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Thats funny about not caring about the 1 to 1.5 loss of MPG with the 4.30"s. I hear all the time about guys wanting to add fuel tanks to there trucks so they don't have to stop for fuel all the time. Going with that low of gear makes no sense if you don't use it to pull anything. 3.73's work just fine around town and since you don't pull around tractors or heavy equipment than you are wasting money on fuel. You will like the performance form the 3.7's also. Spinning the tires is easy even with 3.31's like I have in my deisel. By7 the way. If you have a 26 gallon tank than you lose 26 to 39 miles per tank times how many miles you drive per year. It's almost liker pennies. Put them in a jar and they add up to dollars. Just saying
Besides wasting money is what life is all about. Gotta spend it or the DW or government will take it.
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Thanks for the info. I have read the 1-1.5 MPG figure as well, but after reading a lot of the posts and trying to decipher the usage of the trucks, it the mileage hit seems to be more for highway use, a lot of the posts that discuss in town and slower driving and/or towing are getting better or equal mileage with the 4.30 because it can maintain a higher gears in the hills.
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From: Lewisberry, Penn
If you order you lock in current rebates, you don't have to take del by the 4th. And, if the rebates go up, you can opt for the new better ones.
As for requiring the down payment to bring the truck in, that's pretty reasonable. We lose a good chunk of money on dealer trades, why would we want an unusual truck if you're not willing to buy it?
As for requiring the down payment to bring the truck in, that's pretty reasonable. We lose a good chunk of money on dealer trades, why would we want an unusual truck if you're not willing to buy it?
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From: Warren, PA
If you order you lock in current rebates, you don't have to take del by the 4th. And, if the rebates go up, you can opt for the new better ones.
As for requiring the down payment to bring the truck in, that's pretty reasonable. We lose a good chunk of money on dealer trades, why would we want an unusual truck if you're not willing to buy it?
As for requiring the down payment to bring the truck in, that's pretty reasonable. We lose a good chunk of money on dealer trades, why would we want an unusual truck if you're not willing to buy it?
Frantz, Thanks for the info.
I am unfamiliar with the dealer trade specifics, how do you loose money on dealer trades? I thought you just swapped similar vehicles or combinations of vehicles with equal MSRP's.
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Somebody is gonna get it! Cause you cant take it with you!! What's the point of having boat loads of money when you die? That just means I did not enjoy life as much as I could have.
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From: New Mexico
The Deposit amount is based on what vehicle you are wanting them to trade for.
Depending on the Trade, the Dealers here require a purchase agreement w/deposit.
Plus, your dealer may charge you for transporting cost depending on the location of the other dealer.
Check autotrader on line, good source for looking for a 4.30 geared SD, as you can do a nationwide search.
I just ordered mine, get it the way you want it. Well worth the wait for it to arrive.
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Thats funny about not caring about the 1 to 1.5 loss of MPG with the 4.30"s. I hear all the time about guys wanting to add fuel tanks to there trucks so they don't have to stop for fuel all the time. Going with that low of gear makes no sense if you don't use it to pull anything. 3.73's work just fine around town and since you don't pull around tractors or heavy equipment than you are wasting money on fuel. You will like the performance form the 3.7's also. Spinning the tires is easy even with 3.31's like I have in my deisel. By7 the way. If you have a 26 gallon tank than you lose 26 to 39 miles per tank times how many miles you drive per year. It's almost liker pennies. Put them in a jar and they add up to dollars. Just saying