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Old Dec 11, 2015 | 06:08 AM
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I have two issues on a 2011 F250 6.7 with 90k. Started a thread in the 6.7 forum but not much.


First issue seems to happen when its cold with the transmission. Putting into reverse it will clunk sometimes. Gears 1-2 fine, get into third gear it high revs and then sort of stumbles into 4th with a short lack of power. Think I have read something about solenoids, but not sure. Fluid looks good in the tranny. To me since its intermittent it has to be the computer, or something.


Second issue is with steering. First it seems loose to me. But the main issue and its kind of scary is if you make a hard right or hard left turn the wheel wont return to center, it will keep going hard to the direction you were turning. Once you bring it to center you have to hold it to the opposite side so it doesn't go back to the direction you were turning. Had the truck in for something else and had a garage look at it, they said fine. But I think they just did quick visual. Any ideas.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2015 | 06:52 AM
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Transmission; when was it last serviced?
 
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Old Dec 11, 2015 | 07:03 AM
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Transmission; when was it last serviced?


Not sure Just got the truck used 1000 miles ago.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2015 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by nards444
I have two issues on a 2011 F250 6.7 with 90k. Started a thread in the 6.7 forum but not much.


First issue seems to happen when its cold with the transmission. Putting into reverse it will clunk sometimes. Gears 1-2 fine, get into third gear it high revs and then sort of stumbles into 4th with a short lack of power. Think I have read something about solenoids, but not sure. Fluid looks good in the tranny. To me since its intermittent it has to be the computer, or something.


Second issue is with steering. First it seems loose to me. But the main issue and its kind of scary is if you make a hard right or hard left turn the wheel wont return to center, it will keep going hard to the direction you were turning. Once you bring it to center you have to hold it to the opposite side so it doesn't go back to the direction you were turning. Had the truck in for something else and had a garage look at it, they said fine. But I think they just did quick visual. Any ideas.
Hi nards444,

I'd get both of these issues in front of your local Ford Dealership. Once they've diagnosed it for you, I'll be able to check out some options to help. Either way, keep us posted as things progress.

Crystal
 
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Old Dec 11, 2015 | 09:42 AM
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Thanks ford service, but I like to try and fix things myself first.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2015 | 02:08 PM
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Frozen/rusted outer front axle UJoints will cause steering problems. At 90K without regular greasing you could be ready for new Ujoints. Check the front drive shaft ujoints while your at it. That shaft sits static when not in use and can wick water into the ujoints rusting them up. 4WD should be engaged regularity to keep things freed up. If you find out that any of your UJoints are shot I recommend greasable Spicers with Spicer grease. The only other sources for "no return to center" is a steering gear or pump problem. Its too tight(worm gear adjustment) or on its way out(pump or gear). Look at all of the front suspension assemblies for worn out parts.

The trans needs attention asap. Get it into a good HD truck shop well versed with the 6R140, not a chain store service dept. Have a diagnostic check run on it. Look for any pending or stored trouble codes. Have the internal oil pressure checked too. A few hundred up front could save big bucks.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2016 | 08:08 PM
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Dealer replaced the power steering pump and still doing it.

Tonight jacked up the truck one side at a time. In 2wd truck off. Both sides spin freely with hubs in auto. Nothing engaged. Manually locked hubs and spun both sides. Drivers side engaged the axles and spun harder but did spin. Passenger side spin in auto but once locked the wheel would not spin. Does this mean anything.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2016 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by nards444
I have two issues on a 2011 F250 6.7 with 90k. Started a thread in the 6.7 forum but not much.


First issue seems to happen when its cold with the transmission. Putting into reverse it will clunk sometimes. Gears 1-2 fine, get into third gear it high revs and then sort of stumbles into 4th with a short lack of power. Think I have read something about solenoids, but not sure. Fluid looks good in the tranny. To me since its intermittent it has to be the computer, or something.


Second issue is with steering. First it seems loose to me. But the main issue and its kind of scary is if you make a hard right or hard left turn the wheel wont return to center, it will keep going hard to the direction you were turning. Once you bring it to center you have to hold it to the opposite side so it doesn't go back to the direction you were turning. Had the truck in for something else and had a garage look at it, they said fine. But I think they just did quick visual. Any ideas.
The number one thing you do when buying a used vehicle is before you start using it everyday, all the fluids get changed,- oil, transmission, axle. Then you change all the filters, oil, fuel, transmission, air and any others your vehicle may have.
Then you inspect and lube all the joints if applicable and put new wheel bearing with new lube at which time you also inspect the front brakes.
That is the minimum that people should do when buying a used vehicle, Before you drive it regularly. You can save yourself a lot of headaches, unless you get a warranty when you buy it and they say they did all that and its all covered by the warranty.
It's a little work but that to me is the only way you can make sure you have a used vehicle that will operate correctly, or at least you know that you did everything possible to keep your vehicle on the road.
But most people don't, I was thought this long ago. unfortunately most people do not do these things any more.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2016 | 12:26 AM
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I would normally do everything you mention except changing the wheel bearings. If they don't have any play, I'll leave them alone.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2016 | 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by nards444
Dealer replaced the power steering pump and still doing it.

Tonight jacked up the truck one side at a time. In 2wd truck off. Both sides spin freely with hubs in auto. Nothing engaged. Manually locked hubs and spun both sides. Drivers side engaged the axles and spun harder but did spin. Passenger side spin in auto but once locked the wheel would not spin. Does this mean anything.
If I an understanding you, it sounds like the driver side hub is not locking.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2016 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by redford
If I an understanding you, it sounds like the driver side hub is not locking.


See that I don't know. When the driver side was jacked up when manually locked in the knuckle would move and so would the tire. Passenger side wouldn't. Is that because its a half shaft?


Ive used 4wd in it and it seems to work fine. Don't know if this has anything to do with the steering.






My other thought is maybe the stabilizer is bad. Looking at it, it looks old but not bad.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2016 | 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by DJRAAL
The number one thing you do when buying a used vehicle is before you start using it everyday, all the fluids get changed,- oil, transmission, axle. Then you change all the filters, oil, fuel, transmission, air and any others your vehicle may have.
Then you inspect and lube all the joints if applicable and put new wheel bearing with new lube at which time you also inspect the front brakes.
That is the minimum that people should do when buying a used vehicle, Before you drive it regularly. You can save yourself a lot of headaches, unless you get a warranty when you buy it and they say they did all that and its all covered by the warranty.
It's a little work but that to me is the only way you can make sure you have a used vehicle that will operate correctly, or at least you know that you did everything possible to keep your vehicle on the road.
But most people don't, I was thought this long ago. unfortunately most people do not do these things any more.

I typically do a lot of this stuff when I get something used. I like to start with a baseline. Although this doesn't help with the issue I have.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2016 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by nards444
See that I don't know. When the driver side was jacked up when manually locked in the knuckle would move and so would the tire. Passenger side wouldn't. Is that because its a half shaft?


Ive used 4wd in it and it seems to work fine. Don't know if this has anything to do with the steering.






My other thought is maybe the stabilizer is bad. Looking at it, it looks old but not bad.
The locking hub locks the axle to the wheel.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2016 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by nards444
I typically do a lot of this stuff when I get something used. I like to start with a baseline. Although this doesn't help with the issue I have.
Maybe if you had taken the front wheels off, you would have noticed something. It's a long shot but you never know.
The rest was kinda a general FYI not just directed toward you.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2016 | 01:45 PM
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just coming back to close this out. Ended up being a ball joint, was the culprit. The stabilizer was bad to, which was probably contributing a little.


So they replaced the power steering pump for no reason good job. They had it there two times and everything was looked over and it was fine. Finally got a hold of the service manager brought it in, within two min the master tech knew what it was.


The problem is with these places is they want to plug it in for a quick diagnosis or do a tsb search first, vs taking 30 mins to actually figure it out.
 
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