Notices
2009 - 2014 F150 Discuss the 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013 and 2014 Ford F150
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Moser

6R80 Transmission Drain Plug

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 6, 2015 | 09:53 AM
  #1  
parcours's Avatar
parcours
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 172
Likes: 1
6R80 Transmission Drain Plug

Any suggestions on where to purchase and install a trans pan drain plug?

I'm not a fan of deep pans, even though they have this feature. It would be a nice to have to be able to drain the fluid without the mess.
 
Reply
Old Dec 6, 2015 | 01:40 PM
  #2  
fastback89's Avatar
fastback89
Senior User
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 165
Likes: 0
It's not that big of a deal to pull the pan and change the filter. It took me a half hour to do the whole thing, mine took 7 quarts...
 
Reply
Old Dec 6, 2015 | 02:34 PM
  #3  
parcours's Avatar
parcours
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 172
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by fastback89
It's not that big of a deal to pull the pan and change the filter. It took me a half hour to do the whole thing, mine took 7 quarts...
I know, I just did it...

Would be nice to be able to drain/refill fluid only without dropping the pan.
 
Reply
Old Dec 6, 2015 | 04:05 PM
  #4  
brokenleg's Avatar
brokenleg
Fleet Mechanic
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,493
Likes: 21
Reason there isn't a drainplug is so you change the filter.
 
Reply
Old Dec 6, 2015 | 04:25 PM
  #5  
parcours's Avatar
parcours
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 172
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by brokenleg
Reason there isn't a drainplug is so you change the filter.
I don't do Trans flushes. I change out the filter, drain and refill...

Then drain/refill within 3000 miles and again 3000 miles later. Change the filter on the last drain/refI'll. So having a drain plug works. You don't need to change filter every 3000 miles. But the fluid only gets mixed 7 quarts at a time until you change out all the fluid.
 
Reply
Old Dec 6, 2015 | 09:32 PM
  #6  
Tom's Avatar
Tom
Super Moderator
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 25,479
Likes: 742
From: Isanti, MN
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by brokenleg
Reason there isn't a drainplug is so you change the filter.
That's a bit speculative. The older transmissions didn't have a drain plug either, and the filter lasted for the life of the transmission.
 
Reply
Old Dec 6, 2015 | 09:52 PM
  #7  
brokenleg's Avatar
brokenleg
Fleet Mechanic
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,493
Likes: 21
Originally Posted by Tom
That's a bit speculative. The older transmissions didn't have a drain plug either, and the filter lasted for the life of the transmission.
That's what the factory said. 20 years in transmission shops told me different.
 
Reply
Old Dec 6, 2015 | 10:22 PM
  #8  
Tom's Avatar
Tom
Super Moderator
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 25,479
Likes: 742
From: Isanti, MN
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by brokenleg
That's what the factory said. 20 years in transmission shops told me different.
The factory designed the pan.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-2

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-5

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-7

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Dec 7, 2015 | 07:12 AM
  #9  
brokenleg's Avatar
brokenleg
Fleet Mechanic
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,493
Likes: 21
Originally Posted by Tom
The factory designed the pan.
Whatever. I wont debate you. you believe what you want. I know what I know. its not an opinion. its facts.
 
Reply
Old Dec 8, 2015 | 09:18 AM
  #10  
Alexz265's Avatar
Alexz265
Tuned
10 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 306
Likes: 23
From: Baton Rouge
Aside from the weld in plug kits for ~$20, PML makes a good pan. But all aftermarket pans really are deep ones. AFE pans are more accessible (46-70172) but still deep. I'm not a fan of deep either but tolerated one on my old C6.
 
Reply
Old Dec 8, 2015 | 02:51 PM
  #11  
parcours's Avatar
parcours
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 172
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by Alexz265
Aside from the weld in plug kits for ~$20, PML makes a good pan. But all aftermarket pans really are deep ones. AFE pans are more accessible (46-70172) but still deep. I'm not a fan of deep either but tolerated one on my old C6.
I'm not opposed to getting the PML, they are local and I have their deep pan on my '05 Jeep LJ. However the design for the Ford is different.

The Jeep filter is attached to the valve body, where the Ford just kind of sits there. The PML pan does have filter supports however I'm a little concerned about how well they actually support the filter against the valve body.
 
Reply
Old Jan 1, 2016 | 09:25 PM
  #12  
daveleeander's Avatar
daveleeander
New User
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by brokenleg
That's what the factory said. 20 years in transmission shops told me different.
2X Yes Indeed
 
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2016 | 08:14 AM
  #13  
Mark Kovalsky's Avatar
Mark Kovalsky
Frmr Ford Trans Engr
25 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 3
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 24,725
Likes: 2,651
From: SE Florida
Originally Posted by brokenleg
Reason there isn't a drainplug is so you change the filter.
Originally Posted by brokenleg
Whatever. I wont debate you. you believe what you want. I know what I know. its not an opinion. its facts.
No, it's not a fact, it's your opinion of what the engineers that designed it and the bean counters that paid for it decided. As one of those engineers, I can tell you that you're wrong. The reason the drain plug is not there is NOT to make you change the filter, it's to save the cost of the drain plug.

Until recently the filters were designed for the life of the transmission. If you read the maintenance schedules you won't find a recommended change interval for the filter. There isn't one. That started changing about 2008 when the filters were improved and DO have a change interval.

I've seen a filter cut open that had 369,000 miles on it. The only reason the trans was touched was that the ambulance it had been in was totalled in a wreck. Engineering at Ford had been monitoring that company's fleet, so we got the trans back after the wreck. The filter was still fine and could have lasted many more miles.
 
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2016 | 02:20 PM
  #14  
db_tanker's Avatar
db_tanker
Elder User
20 Year Member
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 585
Likes: 2
From: Willis, Texas
Mark,
as you said until recently...can you give me a rough idea of what the actual life of the filter is then? I ask this since I placed a new filter on my 4R70 at 100k and at that time put a B&M deep sump pan on as well for ease of the drain, fill and the extra 2 qts of tranny fluid (I worked on fluid power systems and know that a measure of your heat can be wicked off with extra fluid reserve as well as a nice, finned aluminum pan :P )

Thanks!
D
 
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2016 | 03:16 PM
  #15  
Mark Kovalsky's Avatar
Mark Kovalsky
Frmr Ford Trans Engr
25 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 3
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 24,725
Likes: 2,651
From: SE Florida
The life of the filter in a 4r70 is somewhere over 369,000 miles.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:44 AM.

story-0
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-2
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-4
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-6
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-7
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-8
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE