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Old Nov 19, 2015 | 01:06 PM
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Exclamation Spring swap.

Please excuse my ignorance. While i have read just about everything about "how to" on here, there isn't really a "why did you" do your spring swap. In my reading the greatest benefit was for towing.

What are the benefits of doing a V/modified B swap?

Better ride? Lift?

It's not something I could/should do myself so I would have to pay someone to do it, which I am not opposed to. I just want to be clear in my mind as to what the benefits would be.

Why did you do yours? What were the benefits?
 
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Old Nov 19, 2015 | 01:09 PM
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My stock springs were worn out and needed replacing anyway. I opted for the X/C codes so I could handle hauling around a little more and get some lift out of it.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2015 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by NMSU_RRAggie
Please excuse my ignorance. While i have read just about everything about "how to" on here, there isn't really a "why did you" do your spring swap. In my reading the greatest benefit was for towing.

What are the benefits of doing a V/modified B swap?
It was developed to eliminate the Excursion Steering Wander that is common to the 4x4 Excursions. It was done for safety reasons.

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Old Nov 19, 2015 | 02:09 PM
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Same as the previous two replies - I wanted the steering wander/passive rear steer gone, a firmer ride, increased towing capacity, and some more height for bigger tires.

Come taxes I'll be swapping to X and C-XL's, V/B-mod isn't cutting it anymore.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2015 | 02:22 PM
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I did mine for an increase in suspension travel in the front- the stock springs only allow (check your axle to bumpstop) inches, and when you hit any bumps or irregularities in the street/hiway, the suspension bottoms out.
When you hit a railroad track diagonally on the freeway at 70, and it feels like someone detonated an I.E.D. under the vehicle, moving you a full lane over; that's where the safety comes in! Much more control and peace of mind.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2015 | 05:40 PM
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I was fortunate that my Ex when bought at 65k miles didn't have any of the infamous wander at all when running unloaded, however with our toyhauler (9500lbs) hitched up it was nearly uncontrollable! The rear springs were completely overwhelmed and the trailer would push the tail around at will. And of course it did bottom out the front pretty easily on any substantial dips or bumps.
My goals were to run 35" tires (because that's what I think looks right and to proper scale on these wagons) and have it handle the heavier trailer better and ride as close to level while towing.
My modded X (B code overload leaf added) and modded B codes (with the F-350 tapered blocks and a few extra bits....) gave me the height needed for the 35"s (+3 7/8" front and +4.5"+ rear) and totally changed the personality and ride of the EX for the better. The ride is now much more controlled and firm vs the soft mushy stock setup. And it now handles the trailer's weight and influence far better, like a 3/4 ton truck should.
The spring swap on my EX was like getting a new more capable truck that rides much better with no more bottoming out.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2015 | 06:50 PM
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Thank you all for your input, it's much appreciated. The PO had air bags installed, and used it primarily for towing a boat. They did not have the Helwig sway bar on back, I added that. As for wander there isn't much and the ride seems pretty solid. Is there a way I can tell if maybe the PO installed different springs?

Are there any identifying marks on the springs. I swear my EX looks taller than most looking at pictures of rigs not modded.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2015 | 06:58 PM
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Maybe I'm just nuts?





 
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Old Nov 19, 2015 | 07:08 PM
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Maybe you are nuts, it would help you to fit in around here if you are.

Check out this thread and take your measurement to confirm where you are ride height wise. https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...easurents.html
A picture or two of your springs will also help us to see if they appear to be stockers or something else.

Nice looking EX.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2015 | 08:02 PM
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Will post ASAP, thanks for the help all.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2015 | 01:25 PM
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(Not completely Level)

Front 22.5/23.5
Rear 25/25 (air bags might be fuller than i though)



Front Spring Code




Rear,Front view




Part Number




Rear, Rear View
 
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Old Nov 20, 2015 | 01:51 PM
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^ Both are stock, the fronts are 350 lbs/in, the rears are 380 lbs/in. The later Excursions had 410-430 lbs/in in the rear.

Not all Excursions wandered, mine did but it wasn't spring related. Between greasing the ball joints, front end alignment and adjusting the steering box I resolved my wander issue. It's not always that easy. I did upgrade my springs because I didn't like hitting the front jounce bumpers any longer.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2015 | 01:53 PM
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Rear springs look to be stockers along with the factory EX blocks.
Try contacting Rob Ross for help deciphering the spring numbers, he has done some great detective work with them here.


EDIT: And I was typing that Rob was already supplying the info! This place and it's members are awesome!
 
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Old Nov 20, 2015 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by WE3ZS
Rear springs look to be stockers along with the factory EX blocks.
Try contacting Rob Ross for help deciphering the spring numbers, he has done some great detective work with them here.


EDIT: And I was typing that Rob was already supplying the info! This place and it's members are awesome!
Ha! Our posts are 2 minutes a part!
 
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Old Nov 20, 2015 | 05:15 PM
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Best place to purchase springs? I'll need someone who can help a novice get the right set up. I am thinking the V for front and mod b for the rear as I do not what it to rough but want to increase my safety factor for towing, do you order the mod B?
 
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