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Old Nov 18, 2015 | 04:51 PM
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Connecting Rod recomendation.

Hello can someone recomend Forged Connecting rod For 300ci engine?
 
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Old Nov 18, 2015 | 06:55 PM
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You stated that you had a custom steel crank.

Are the rod journals the same as the stock crank?
Stock size is 2.123" or 53.92 mm
 
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Old Nov 18, 2015 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by pmuller
You stated that you had a custom steel crank.

Are the rod journals the same as the stock crank?
Stock size is 2.123" or 53.92 mm
Yes I don Have Crank with me, but I think its Standard rod Journal.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2015 | 09:01 PM
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The only non-custom aftermarket rod that fits the Ford 300 is the Big Block Chevy small journal. Oliver has four different lengths that will work with the 300.
Oliver is also one of the best steel rods.

Big Block Archives - Oliver Racing Parts

The BBC rod has the same .990" big end width as the 300 but the crank journal needs to be turned down from 2.123" to 2.100" to fit the rod.

The piston pin is .990" so the piston will need to be custom to fit the pin.
The rods are longer than stock and depending on which length you choose it will reduce the height of the piston making it much lighter than stock

I used a 6.8" long 240 rod and was able to reduce the piston and pin weight from the stock 819 grams down to 575 grams.

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Old Nov 18, 2015 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by juancho_uy
Hello can someone recomend Forged Connecting rod For 300ci engine?
The stock 300 rods are forged.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2015 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by fordman75
The stock 300 rods are forged.
Yes but I wouldn't want to use them for this 1000 hp six application.
That is equivalent to a 1300 hp V8.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2015 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by pmuller
Yes but I wouldn't want to use them for this 1000 hp six application.
That is equivalent to a 1300 hp V8.
Yes I know. But those kind of #'s are in the custom built rod arena. Not a off the shelf part.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2015 | 10:57 PM
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I use custom built Oliver rods with the Chevy journal size. I used to use aluminum but I got tired of changing rods in an otherwise good engine. I'm lazy. The steel rods make just as much power as aluminum, for one reason that you can run a tighter quench height.

Oliver will not make six custom rods. You will have to order eight.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2015 | 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by The Frenchtown Flyer
I use custom built Oliver rods with the Chevy journal size. I used to use aluminum but I got tired of changing rods in an otherwise good engine. I'm lazy. The steel rods make just as much power as aluminum, for one reason that you can run a tighter quench height.

Oliver will not make six custom rods. You will have to order eight.
I called Oliver Rods and they can supply six singles on their standard part number rods depending on availability.
I explained the application and they said the standard part number small journal big block rod will handle the power no problem.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2015 | 03:31 PM
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Make SURE they have all the correct dimensional characteristics for your application. In my case the first set of rods arrived with Chevy big end widths. Wrong. Expensive mistake.
 
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Originally Posted by The Frenchtown Flyer
Make SURE they have all the correct dimensional characteristics for your application. In my case the first set of rods arrived with Chevy big end widths. Wrong. Expensive mistake.
Thanks for the heads up.

The Chevy Big Block big end width is .990" which is real close to the 300 big end width.
The 300 rods I have here are measuring .992" at both the big end and the small end.

The early "No hole" 240 rod has a .020" offset beam but the big and small ends are in line.
The later spit hole rod beams are centered.
I don't know what Olivers BBC beam offset is but not sure if it matters since the small end width is 1.125" versus .992" for the 300.
Looking for some guidance here.

I know that the BBC rod big end only has one side chamfered so the other side will need to be chamfered also.

Since a custom piston needs to be used with this build it can be made with the BBC .990" pin.

Are there any other considerations that is missing?

What BE width did Oliver send you the first time?

I'm working on another 300 turbo build and need to get this right.

Thanks FTF and anyone else
 
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Old Nov 19, 2015 | 08:12 PM
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You had better measure the width of your rod journal on the crank. I am sure it is well above 1 inch. I've been through this before with Oliver. Of course, you did say you had a billet crank made and possibly they made the journal width the same as a Chevy.

Also to my knowledge there was no (intentional) offset to the beam. The .020" you are seeing is probably manufacturing tolerance error.
 
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