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Old Oct 29, 2015 | 11:27 AM
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Cranking issue

Trying to track down an issue (annoyance) I'm having with my 02 7.3 4x4 excursion. When I get in the truck and turn the key (after waiting for glow plugs) the starter doesn't actually turn over for 1-3 seconds and sometimes up to 5. When the truck does turn over everything works perfect it's just an annoying delay. I haven't been able to find a similar problem online. Has anyone experienced this?
 
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Old Oct 29, 2015 | 12:46 PM
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Sounds like a relay going out. How Relays Work | Relay diagrams, relay definitions and relay types

They can slow down and delay working when they are starting to die.

Can you hear the solenoid going off, or is that part of the delay?
 
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Old Oct 29, 2015 | 04:15 PM
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Mark your starting relay and then switch it with any other. I believe they are all the same.


If it fires right p, replace the one you marked.


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Old Oct 29, 2015 | 07:17 PM
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The truck has over 300K, I will replace the relay and report back.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2015 | 08:51 PM
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Hope you have success.


(BTW, this is a brotherhood. Share your success we will get this figured out. I look at it this way. If I can't resolve an issue with my rig through these brilliant diehards, I would be by the tracks)
 
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Old Nov 5, 2015 | 03:29 PM
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Relay has been replaced and the problem appears to have gone away. However, it has been ridiculously warm so I will wait until it gets back below freezing to know for sure.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2015 | 02:30 PM
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Had a brisk morning today and when I went to crank the truck it took a solid 3 seconds from the time I turned the key until the starter kicked in. Where should I look next? Starter?
 
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Old Nov 15, 2015 | 07:12 PM
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When it does crank, does it crank over sharply, or is it a gradual speeding up? Do you hear the solenoid click when you turn the key right away?
 
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Unless you have very low battery voltage, suspect the starter.

They often degrade, spin slower, even parasitic drain on battery (as mine was this summer).

The one thing to check first, though is the top bolt in the starter housing. It tends to work loose. It could bind or compromise the starter ground.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2015 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Zwalters
When it does crank, does it crank over sharply, or is it a gradual speeding up? Do you hear the solenoid click when you turn the key right away?
When it cranks it's perfect. Wraps right over and starts the truck with no issue, like it should minus the delay. I do not hear a click but I dont hear much over the vacuum pump.

Originally Posted by ExPACamper
Unless you have very low battery voltage, suspect the starter.

They often degrade, spin slower, even parasitic drain on battery (as mine was this summer).

The one thing to check first, though is the top bolt in the starter housing. It tends to work loose. It could bind or compromise the starter ground.
Batteries are darn near brand new interstates. I think voltage was 12.7 before I went to crank this morning. I'll check that bolt out.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2016 | 08:03 PM
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When it cranks it's perfect. Wraps right over and starts the truck with no issue, like it should minus the delay. I do not hear a click but I dont hear much over the vacuum pump.



Batteries are darn near brand new interstates. I think voltage was 12.7 before I went to crank this morning. I'll check that bolt out.
It has taken me awhile to get around to the cranking issue. It was 100% the starter. Replaced it with a new one and not a single hesitation since. Thanks for the help!
 
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It has taken me awhile to get around to the cranking issue. It was 100% the starter. Replaced it with a new one and not a single hesitation since. Thanks for the help!

I don't think that you needed to buy a whole starter, I believe that it was the solenoid ON the started that was sticking. They are not too hard to replace and would have been around half the cost.

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Originally Posted by Brother Les
I don't think that you needed to buy a whole starter, I believe that it was the solenoid ON the started that was sticking. They are not too hard to replace and would have been around half the cost.

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Don't disagree one bit as the solenoid ripped in half when I attempted to disconnect the positive lug. However, I've been wanting to go with the larger body 3 bolt style and this was the perfect opportunity!
 
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Old Apr 24, 2016 | 08:53 PM
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Don't disagree one bit as the solenoid ripped in half when I attempted to disconnect the positive lug. However, I've been wanting to go with the larger body 3 bolt style and this was the perfect opportunity!
Buy the new one and repair the old one for a spare.
 
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