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Old Oct 19, 2015 | 08:39 AM
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VIN invalid?

I entered my VIN into the handy online VIN decoder, and it is apparently invalid! I double checked the registration's VIN w the the truck's and they match (that was a scary few minutes wondering if the truck did not match registration)

I tripled checked my entry onto the decoder site

Any ideas of what is going on?

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Old Oct 19, 2015 | 09:04 AM
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Got a pic of the VIN? It's easy to misread those stamped numbers

There are also guys here who have access to much more detail than the online decoders, so that may help there, too.

I don't think there is any security issue with posting VIN numbers ?
 
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Old Oct 19, 2015 | 10:38 AM
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some Vins are not recognized by the decoder. i have never been able to figure that out though.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2015 | 11:28 AM
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Was it produced as an "incomplete vehicle" from Ford?
 
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Old Oct 19, 2015 | 11:41 AM
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I have searched several VIN's from vehicles listed for online auctions and they showed up 'invalid'.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2015 | 03:04 PM
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The number is correct - looked at the door panel and clearly legible as well as matching registration.

No idea how it was originally purchased.

Cybercrime alert...

1FTNX21FO3EA41512 .... information much appreciated!
 
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Old Oct 19, 2015 | 03:43 PM
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It has to do with check digits and other stuff. If the manufacture does not inform the decoder people about the check digits than you will get a invalid vin. I see it on trailers all the time
 
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Old Oct 19, 2015 | 04:15 PM
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Maybe this will help.

{removed link, was 015 models }

What are you trying to figure out?
 
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Old Oct 19, 2015 | 07:06 PM
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Mostly just curious about what I can learn from the VIN, there might be a surprise. And now, a bit more interested to see how to get around an invalid code.

Also a huge sense of relief, courtesy of FTE, that an invalid code is not unusual and all is fine with the paperwork!
 
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Old Oct 19, 2015 | 07:13 PM
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Not a bad VIN.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2015 | 08:06 PM
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Looking at the VIN guide...its for 2015's ... so i googled "Ford VIN guide 2003" and got PDF Manual Download - Free User Manual Guide

Positions 1-3 (1FT) - manufacturer - yup, its a Ford truck, completed
Position 4 (N) - dual airbags
Position 5-7 (X21) - F250, 4X4, Supercab
Position 8 (F) - 7.3L turbo dsl, made by Navistar, net brake HP 215-275
Position 9 (O) - check digit, it checks out
Position 10 (3) model year - yup, its an '03
Position 11 (E) Plant - it like bluegrass having been made in Kentucky
Position 12 -17 (A41512) - its a Ford (if all numeric, it would be a Nissan)

And ExPACamper - You're right, no new insight except it 21-5-275 hp available for engine brakes.... I kind of prefer the mysterious 'invalid' result better than the plane jane.

Thanks
 
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Old Oct 19, 2015 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave in Maine
Looking at the VIN guide...its for 2015's ... so i googled "Ford VIN guide 2003" and got PDF Manual Download - Free User Manual Guide

1FTNX21F03EA41412

1FT = FoMoCo USA - Ford Truck - Complete Vehicle.
N = Class G Hydraulic Brakes - 8,500-9,000 lbs. Gross Vehicle Weight Rating with dual airbags.
X21 = F250, 4X4, Super Cab Pickup with SRW
F = 7.3L turbo dsl, made by Navistar, net brake HP 215-275.
0 = check digit, FoMoCo usage only.
3 = 2003.
E = Kentucky Truck Assembly Plant.
A41512 = 2003 Numerical Sequence of Assembly, the trucks specific serial number.
Fixed it for you. Printed on the Certification Label are codes for the PAINT / DSO / TYPE/GVW / TRANS / AXLE. Post 'em if you'd like these decoded.

btw: FTE VIN decoders aren't worth 2 cents, have errors and omissions. LMC's are even worse!
 
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Old Oct 20, 2015 | 04:18 AM
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NumberDummy is no dummy.... someone also PM's me:


<table class="default" border="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" width="33%">VEHICLE DESCRIPTION: 2003 F-SERIES </td><td valign="top" width="33%"> Version/Series: 250 SERIES </td> <td valign="top" width="33%">PAINT COLOR: DARK HIGHLAND GREEN C/C WB</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top" width="1%">
</td> <td valign="top" width="33%">BODY STYLE: SUPER SINGLE CAB (SUPER CAB)</td> <td valign="top" width="33%"> Drive Type: 4 WHL L/H PART TIME DRIVE </td> <td valign="top" width="33%">PAINT CODE: PY</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top" width="1%">
</td> <td valign="top" width="33%">ENGINE: 7.3L Diesel V8 Turbo</td> <td valign="top" width="33%">AXLE RATIO: 3.73 Ratio</td> <td valign="top" width="33%">GROSS VEHICLE WEIGHT: 8800 LB. GVW</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top" width="1%">
</td> <td valign="top" width="33%">ENGINE CALIBRATION: 2F719N0A</td> <td valign="top" width="33%">AXLE CODE: C1</td> <td valign="top" width="33%">RADIO: Elect Prem Stro/Cass/Disc/Clock</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top" width="1%">
</td> <td valign="top" width="33%">TRANSMISSION: 4 SP Auto 4R100 (Diesel APPLI)</td> <td valign="top" width="33%">WHEEL SIZE: 7.0 X 16" 6 Window Aluminum Wheel</td> <td valign="top" width="33%">
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top" width="1%">
</td> <td valign="top" width="33%">
</td> <td valign="top" width="33%">TIRE: LT265/75R-16E OWL A-T Tire</td></tr></tbody></table>


Thanks all!
 
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