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Old Oct 17, 2015 | 03:10 PM
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Crossthreaded thermostat bolt problem

Friend of mine has an 05 6.0 and needs to replace his thermostat.
He is pretty sure one of the bolts crossthreaded when he installed the last one.

Can we clean up the threads or use a heli coil to fix this??

Can we replace a part that has the bad threads in it??

Any and all info would be great.

Thanks for the help.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2015 | 03:59 PM
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Hilicoil is one choice. There are other brands that are better. Google thread repair
That part is the front cover, yes you can replace it
 
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Old Oct 17, 2015 | 07:32 PM
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The last things I was hearing about the front covers were that they are expensive and hard to find. Assessing the damage to the threads and making a solid repair is a skill and this part isn't a good one to learn on (if you've never done one before). I'd recommend talking to someone locally who does that kind of work or at least get up the tools, watch a few video's and make a couple "test repairs" on some scrap aluminum parts before doing the actual repair. It's one of those jobs that looks like it would be quick and easy to do but there are many ways to mess it up.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2015 | 09:42 PM
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OK thanks. I did confirm the mount is only the bolt style.
Saw some google images with 2 nut style mounts.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2015 | 02:25 PM
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05 and up are rare and prized. 03/04 not so much.


05 and up has the bigger water pump.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2015 | 06:35 PM
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I know of a place to get one for the 05+
PM me for the info on how to contact the guy.



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Old Oct 18, 2015 | 07:51 PM
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Ok guys are we talking about getting the front cover??


Is the cover made of aluminum? And does the hole just bottom out or does bolt thread through it all the way?


Sorry I have not seen the 6.0 for myself yet.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2015 | 11:13 PM
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Find out if it can be fixed first. That cover is going at almost the same
price as gold. Well not really but it way up there.



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Old Oct 19, 2015 | 12:02 AM
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If it's just a thread repair install a thread insert. I wouldn't replace the whole front cover over 1 thread issue. The 5.4s we use inserts to hold in a stripped spark plug, I think holding the thermostat housing would not be beyond the limits of the insert.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2015 | 04:13 AM
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If it's just a thread repair install a thread insert. I wouldn't replace the whole front cover over 1 thread issue. The 5.4s we use inserts to hold in a stripped spark plug, I think holding the thermostat housing would not be beyond the limits of the insert.
You know that even if it is beyond I would check with a welder that is
very good with TIG and you may save save some money. But your going to
have to pull the cover to get it right and that takes a new main seal.



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Old Oct 19, 2015 | 05:13 AM
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I don't recall if it does or not, but if the bolt goes all the way through why couldn't you just drill it and tap it out with the next size up bolt and drill the through hole it the t-stat housing? if you don't want an odd ball bolt size there do both sides. It would be a cold day in before I 'd change the front cover because of this issue. jmho
 
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Old Oct 19, 2015 | 06:37 AM
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^^^^^^^^ X2, Easy job if you know what your doing.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2015 | 08:10 AM
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Thanks. Feeling a little better on just getting original cover repaired
 
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Old Oct 19, 2015 | 08:51 AM
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I just pointed out the cover was expensive, it is certainly a easily repairable issue unless you pull the thermostat housing and find a crack or something which is unlikely. Here's some more general info that may help a little.

There are taps designed for chasing threads. When you get the bolt out, look closely at the threads of the bolt. If it hasn't galled and picked up bits of aluminum, one of these taps could be an option.

If the bolt breaks when you're pulling it out, the repair get a little more complicated. Proper center punching, correct angle on the drill, and stepping up drill sizes is important. It unlikely a reverse drill bit or easy-out will help in that case.

A helicoil or other style thread insert requires drilling and will remove most or all of the damaged threads, and you'll end up with the proper size bolt after the repair. It is a metric thread size.

If it's a blind hole or not the repair is the same, you'll just need to drill to the proper depth if it is. Bottoming drills and taps are available that will clean the threads up all the way to the bottom of the hole if you decide to clean up the existing threads.

You mention not being familiar with the 6.0 engine so I'll add that after the air intake assembly and top radiator hose are out of the way there should be plenty of room to work. Don't be tempted to undo the snaps and just remove the filter part, it's a headache to work with. Undo the intake clamp on the big tube at the turbo inlet, unplug the MAF sensor and pull its harness clip off the stud on the intake tube and disconnect the filter minder harness or pull the filter minder out of the intake housing. Lift it up from the back first (it's a tight fit clearing the master cylinder resivoir) and with a little twisting the front part of the tube will come out of the radiator support and the whole, giant thing will come out in one piece.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2015 | 08:03 PM
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Rusty Thank you.
Friend called Ford and said bolt was M8x 1.5 thread pattern.
All I find at O'Reilly is m8x.125.
Will this insert size work?
Gonna check with Fastenal tomorrow.
 
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