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Old 10-15-2015, 07:49 PM
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1990 Ford F150 I6 300 EFI HELP

Hello everyone,
was wondering if anyone knows what to do, a few years ago i took out a I6 300 to re do the seals and head gasket, When i removed it it ran like new just leaked a ton of oil

I got it back in and fired it up. It seems to be running supper rich, as far as i know all of the vacume lines are hooked up.

It has
1. new spark plugs, router, and wires
2. new o2 sensor (broke when removed)


Thats about it,

i thought that the rich running would be the o2, its a lot better now but not perfect yet

if i hit the gas pedel it will rev up, almost sounds like a miss but it isnt (when running and i pull the plugs all cylindars are fireing)

any idea what to look for

Also the fuel pressure regulator vacume hose goes right to the intake right?

Thank you so much everyone
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Old 10-17-2015, 12:21 PM
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anyone have any idea
 
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Hi dave2500,
It looks like your post might be a little vague for us to offer a great deal of assistance.
I understand the issue is that your engine seems to be running rich, but what's leading you to that diagnosis?
I'd like to see some more description of the symptoms, the problems associated them, and the troubleshooting tests and values done/found so far.

A couple of beginning notes:
An engine idling is not the same as an engine 'revved up', and I myself have been the owner of a vehicle that idled fine, but did not tolerate being pushed to higher speeds or RPM's. In my years of playing Ford owner (part mechanic!) i've found the ignition system to be an interesting beast to tame, and should never be thought of as stationary; it's different at each stage of acceleration, cruise, deceleration, and load.
 
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It's EFI so you need to pull the codes.
 
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Old 10-18-2015, 02:57 PM
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I also wonder what makes you think it is running rich. Also you said that you removed the engine a few years ago. Does that mean the truck has been sitting all that time? If so you may simply have some bad fuel in the tank.
 
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Hello,
Thanks for the answers

It is not showing any CEL light on,

I know its running rich because it smaokes black like it is chocked.
If i pull a vacume line it runs better,

i also drained the gas and added new gas (runs a little better)

not really sure

would a leaking exhaust manifold cause this

Thank again
 
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would a leaking exhaust manifold cause this? YES
 
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Old 10-21-2015, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by 88XLTLariat
would a leaking exhaust manifold cause this? YES

Thank you i will tighten that up later today, its lekaing like a sive where the manifolds bolt onto the rest of the exhaust

Thanks again everyone ill let you know how i make out
 
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More information, please

Originally Posted by dave2500
Hello,
Thanks for the answers

It is not showing any CEL light on,

I know its running rich because it smaokes black like it is chocked.
If i pull a vacume line it runs better,

i also drained the gas and added new gas (runs a little better)

not really sure

would a leaking exhaust manifold cause this

Thank again
When you make a post, please be sure to include details about your steps. For example, which vacuum line did you pull?
What do you mean by 'chocked'?
When we read your posts, we have to presume you're including all the information you have, and that anything not mentioned is working correctly. So when you have a leaking exhaust manifold, but don't mention it, we end up doing a lot of back pedaling, which leads to frustration from those of us trying to help you.

So, please do include as much info as you have so we can help you as best as we can.
 
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Originally Posted by DLeach4512
When you make a post, please be sure to include details about your steps. For example, which vacuum line did you pull?
What do you mean by 'chocked'?
When we read your posts, we have to presume you're including all the information you have, and that anything not mentioned is working correctly. So when you have a leaking exhaust manifold, but don't mention it, we end up doing a lot of back pedaling, which leads to frustration from those of us trying to help you.

So, please do include as much info as you have so we can help you as best as we can.
Sorry about that,

i have a video,
i dont know if anyone would beable to tell what might be wrong
Their is no CEL on which i find kinda starnge seeing how bad it is running

I thightened up the exhaust and when i started it today it is running worse than ever (hardly runs)

You can see it build NO RPM

Im getting more lost by the day,

The conector that i grab in the video , im not to sure where it goes/what it does, could that be it
the exhaust is connected and their is not a aftermarket cam (kinda sounds like a huage cam lol)


thanks everyone
Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ipcw...ature=youtu.be
 
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Originally Posted by dave2500
Their is no CEL on which i find kinda starnge seeing how bad it is running
You can have issues that will trigger a code in the KOEO test without having an active CEL. Check for codes as stated earlier

Originally Posted by dave2500
I thightened up the exhaust and when i started it today it is running worse than ever (hardly runs)

You can see it build NO RPM
That looks to me like a plugged converter....
 
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Ruh roh!

First, kudos on the video! If a picture is worth a thousand words, a video is worth 24-32K words per second
Second, I think you have a plugged cat.
Put your hand over the tailpipe, not touching the pipe, just so you can feel the pressure. Now, once you get a "reading" on the exhaust pressure with your handy gauge (see what I did there?) go get a reading from a similar engine that runs well.

You can also bang on the cat with your fist (check for big rust spots first!!) and listen for the crinkle-tinkle of broken stuff inside, which will clog up the innards.
If you have a way of doing so, you can disconnect the exhaust anywhere between the engine and the cat, and notice the difference in running.

Based on your video, you either have a clogged exhaust (I would suspect the cat first in an exhaust clog), or a bad timing issue.
 
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Stuck/Dirty injector?
Fuel Pressure regulator failure?
Timing set incorrectly?
Firing order on cap sep right?
Fuel pressure regulator vacuum line unplugged?
 
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Originally Posted by MR KROGOTH
Stuck/Dirty injector?
Fuel Pressure regulator failure?
Timing set incorrectly?
Firing order on cap sep right?
Fuel pressure regulator vacuum line unplugged?
Thank you everyone

I got the codes,
I have code 67
and code 85

I am missing that selanoid that goes on the vacume lines off the throttle body, could that b e causing it to run like this?

The timing should be close. i set it with the engine running to where it runs the best,
the firing order is right
it has a new cap and router

Could code 85 be causing all of this?
 
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Originally Posted by MR KROGOTH
Stuck/Dirty injector?
Fuel Pressure regulator failure?
Timing set incorrectly?
Firing order on cap sep right?
Fuel pressure regulator vacuum line unplugged?

Not sure how to test the fuel pressure regulator,
the timing is very close if not dead on
firing order is good
and the fuel pressure regulator vacume line is pluged directly into the vacume port (tree thing on intake) not positive if thats the right spot or not

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