Notices
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks 1987 - 1996 Ford F-150, F-250, F-350 and larger pickups - including the 1997 heavy-duty F250/F350+ trucks

Problems with HID kit?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 30, 2015 | 12:25 PM
  #1  
Javier89F150's Avatar
Javier89F150
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 84
Likes: 0
Problems with HID kit?

I was thinking about getting an HID kit for my truck, but I was wanting to know of I'll run into any difficulties.
I was contemplating on replacing the lense with clear ones as well.
Any input is appreciated
 
Reply
Old Sep 30, 2015 | 02:29 PM
  #2  
Evan_P's Avatar
Evan_P
Logistics Pro
10 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 3,507
Likes: 121
From: Oregon
The only proper way to do it is in my wig below.

And here is a sorce for pre-made ones.

http://www.fullsizebronco.com/forum/...d.php?t=357993
 
Reply
Old Sep 30, 2015 | 04:51 PM
  #3  
Javier89F150's Avatar
Javier89F150
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 84
Likes: 0
I would do projectors,but my current financial situation won't allow it.
I was going to order a 8k HID kit,and have clear acrylic cut out for the lense.
But I appreciate it anyways
 
Reply
Old Sep 30, 2015 | 08:02 PM
  #4  
DeathRangerofDeath's Avatar
DeathRangerofDeath
Senior User
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 377
Likes: 6
if you can't afford to do it correctly, please do all us that drive on the road with you a favor and don't do it at all.
 
Reply
Old Sep 30, 2015 | 11:28 PM
  #5  
Javier89F150's Avatar
Javier89F150
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 84
Likes: 0
I can't afford to pay 600+ on projectors, but I can put out 250-300 on a HID kit with a new clear lense.
But driving with my current lights is getting dangerous.
 
Reply
Old Oct 1, 2015 | 12:03 AM
  #6  
Evan_P's Avatar
Evan_P
Logistics Pro
10 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 3,507
Likes: 121
From: Oregon
Don't want to be rude but let me do a little educating here.

First, 8K HID's should not exist in the first place. With those you are going to be even worse off that poor condition stock lights. The human eye is far better at seeing the warm, yellow color of the factory lights than it is the cool blue color of the 8K HID's. (By cool I mean color temperature. They don't look cool either.) The effect is made worse in the rain as almost all of the light from the 8K HID's will be reflected of the wet ground making them pretty useless.

Second. GLARE. It does not matter if the lens is diffused as it came from the factory or crystal clear. Reflector housing are designed in such a way that the light from the bulb is sent to the reflector bowl and then out of the housing. There is a reason your bulbs have a coating on the ed to block the light from going strait out the tip of the bulb. HID bulbs do not have this coating and therefore throw light is every direction at a very high intensity. To oncoming drivers it is very blinding and distracting.

This is the output of a HID projector.



All of the light that escape the lens is focus and kept below the height of oncoming traffic such that the high intensity of the bulb is not seen by oncoming traffic. To oncoming traffic they look like normal headlights.

This is a CLEAR lens reflector HID "conversion".



Notice how the light is scattered everywhere and not controlled in any way. This is what blinds other drivers.

If you can't afford projectors, like stated above, please do not use those crappy HID kits. They are unsafe and have no place in the market. Be kind to those you share the road with.

If you want to get some nice working lights for not too much money, get yourself some new quality halogen bulbs, mare a relay setup for your headlights and if you can afford it, get some new, fresh STOCK DIFFUSED housings. You will be surprised with how much better the light output is. Best part is it won't cost $600 and you will actually be able to see better.

End of rant....
 
Reply
Old Oct 1, 2015 | 09:14 AM
  #7  
dixie460's Avatar
dixie460
Postmaster
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 3,533
Likes: 17
From: SW Florida
I was gonna say the same thing as Evan but he beat me to it and had pics too!

Don't put HID's in your halogen housings. One of the most aggravating things that can happen is driving in one of our usual downpours after dark and having to deal with some idiot coming towards me on a dark two lane road. Its hard enough to see past their glare on a clear night, add the rain for even more glare effect and it's not a good situation.

Don't make it harder on others for no gain on your own part. If you can't afford projectors then either get LED's or do the relay upgrade and put in GOOD (not the ghetto blue ones) bulbs in.
 
Reply
Old Oct 1, 2015 | 11:05 AM
  #8  
tjc transport's Avatar
tjc transport
i ain't rite
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 65,422
Likes: 5,507
From: Marlboro Mental Hospital.
Club FTE Gold Member
another thing to remember is that to the best of my knowledge there are no DOT approved HID light kits made for use in the united states.
the seller may claim they are, but the DOT has not approved any aftermarket kit for on road use.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-3

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-4

10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

 Brett Foote
story-6

5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

Ford Super Duty: 5 Things Owners LOVE, 5 Things They LOATHE!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Every 2026 Ford Truck Engine RANKED from WORST to FIRST!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

The Best F-150 Deal of Every Trim Level (XL through Raptor)

 Joe Kucinski
Old Oct 3, 2015 | 01:37 AM
  #9  
cman1120's Avatar
cman1120
Senior User
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 431
Likes: 1
From: Colorado
I will echo Evan and the others who have posted here by saying either do it right or do not do it at all. I live in a fairly big city and I cannot begin to count the number of cars and trucks (usually riced out imports or giant brodozers) driving around with 6, 8, even 10k crappy HID kits in stock housings and it is maddening. To say it's blinding is an understatement, plus they look pretty terrible too.

If you wanna get HIDs the right way, look in Evans thread it details everything. I am planning on doing it myself in a few weeks hopefully.
 
Reply
Old Oct 3, 2015 | 02:34 AM
  #10  
bluemtn95ford's Avatar
bluemtn95ford
Elder User
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 533
Likes: 0
I agree with the above statements, however, I personally did a simple ebay HID kit on my 94. At the same time I replaced the lens with clear. While they may not be as focused or clear cut as the projector HIDs, they are definitely a step up from stock light through a clouded lens. I would not go with anything above 6k (what I did) as like the above said, anything higher and your into practically useless light. For a cheap, simple to install, upgrade? I think a decent 6k kit and new lens' will satisfy your temporary needs.
 
Reply
Old Oct 3, 2015 | 03:57 AM
  #11  
Bird-Dog 250's Avatar
Bird-Dog 250
Elder User
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 562
Likes: 0
From: Otto, NC
I tried a HID kit in my 2005 F150. I paid close to $100.00 for the kit. In my opinion it was a waist of money. All I got from them was lots of cars flashing me to hit low beam. As for high beam that was almost none existent. The light just disperses so much you see on low beam better. I might also add that the right headlight would go out once in a while. Shutting the headlights off for a second would make it come back on again, TERRIBLE! I swapped them out and installed Philips 9008XVS2 X-Treme Vision Headlight Bulb, (Pack of 2). $40.00. Keep your stock lights!
If you want a good high beam wire in a set of 55w driving lights. Hook the power to the high beam circuit so they come on and off with you high beams.
 
Reply
Old Nov 17, 2015 | 09:56 PM
  #12  
Javier89F150's Avatar
Javier89F150
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 84
Likes: 0
Okay I'm back from being offshore for the holidays. I realized my ad was a typo, by 8000k I meant 6000k. Anyways, HIDs are the most basic mod here in Houston. So I plan on just doing LEDs, not trying to do some fugly blue lights, just white lights to feel more safer to drive.
I'm sorry to do this, but I'm limited to my cell phone and can't find anything else so I'm resorted to my thread.
So if anyone could please link me to sites,threads, write ups, etc.
So I'm looking to get LEDs, as stated, and was wanting to get a relay as well. I would build one,but I honestly would rather buy one. Also, if you could link me to anything else I'd need to do this setup correctly. Housings, bulbs, etc. I could careless what people think, but if there's any thar exist and if I could be linked to black housings. My truck is getting painted white with black accents with little to no chrome.
I'd appreciate any and all help.
 
Reply
Old Nov 17, 2015 | 10:58 PM
  #13  
dixie460's Avatar
dixie460
Postmaster
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 3,533
Likes: 17
From: SW Florida
With LED's you don't need to install relays. I DO NOT recommend any products from Lifetime LED's or any of their lookalike products sold under different brand names. Had two sets with failed drivers... I will be trying another set in the future and if those fail I will make my own drivers. Drivers are what provides the proper current/voltage for an LED, this is similar to what would be called a ballast on an HID kit).

Here is my LED install thread: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...onversion.html

Note I don't have any LED's installed in my headlights right now but plan on buying these at some point: 9007 LMZ PLATINUM ULTRA OUTPUT HIGH/LOW LED HEADLIGHTS

Due to that set using emitters placed one behind the other for high/low beam, being adjustable front to back, and adjustable for rotation angle, I think I'll have better results with those vs. my original ones.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Bowie
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
13
Feb 20, 2013 10:36 AM
kboughton
2004 - 2008 F150
10
May 9, 2010 04:11 AM
foreman400x
1997 - 2003 F150
21
Oct 18, 2009 11:05 AM
94whitelight
1999 - 2016 Super Duty
2
May 7, 2007 10:38 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:05 AM.

story-0
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-2
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-3
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

Slideshow: Here are the top 10 Fords coming to Mecum Indy 2026.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:49:49


VIEW MORE
story-6
5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 worst Ford truck wheels of all time

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:49:01


VIEW MORE
story-7
Ford Super Duty: 5 Things Owners LOVE, 5 Things They LOATHE!

Slideshow: Ranking the 5 things owners love about their Super Duty and 5 things they don't

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:36:49


VIEW MORE
story-8
Every 2026 Ford Truck Engine RANKED from WORST to FIRST!

Slideshow: Ranking all 12 Ford truck engines available in 2026.

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 13:32:20


VIEW MORE
story-9
The Best F-150 Deal of Every Trim Level (XL through Raptor)

Slideshow: The best Ford F-150 deal for every trim level (XL through Raptor)

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-21 15:59:01


VIEW MORE