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Old Sep 15, 2015 | 02:24 PM
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I think q man did his by his lonesome, I had TIT helping me or me helping him. It is a heavy SOB.
OH! your going to have to remove the crossmember just under the bell housing (for lack of better words) I used an air chisel to bust em out and nut and bolted it back in. PIA
 
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Old Sep 15, 2015 | 02:34 PM
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Thanks qman.
The input shaft WILL come out so A) don't carry the tranny by it and B) don't soil your drawers when it happens. Just line the splines and put it make. (at least mine did)
Thanks, I probably would have had a fit over that.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2015 | 02:34 PM
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My cross member had bolts holding it in place. I just air-gunned them out. Actually had to remove two cross members.

Didn't do mine alone. My neighbor hands me tools and beer while I'm under the truck. He sits on a chair drinking beer til I need a tool. Probably why it took so long. He's the brains of the operation and I do all the work. We're both so smart that we didn't know anything about threaded holes to push out the pump. I bched for about 10 minutes til I had to finally say "shut the f**k up and do it."
 
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Old Sep 15, 2015 | 02:34 PM
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2X ultra
lube the seals
Ultra, that is a fancy tool set!
 
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Old Sep 15, 2015 | 02:37 PM
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One more thing. I have the Ford shop manual and it says to lube everything with vaseline. I glued the paper gasket in place with vaseline and also lubed the o-ring and seal with the stuff. Works great.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2015 | 02:47 PM
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Ditto!
I used vaseline for sex when the kids were little too. Smear that stuff on the door **** and they ain't gettin in....
 
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Old Sep 15, 2015 | 03:01 PM
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Lots of beer and Vaseline. Got it.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2015 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by TeachNlive4ever
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lube the seals
Ultra, that is a fancy tool set!
I bought the Rotunda AOD transmission tool set, as well as a number of other AOD/AODE/4R70W Rotunda transmission specialty tools about 4 or 5 years ago.

That was around the time when a lot of Ford dealerships were being closed down everywhere and their service department tools were being sold off for far below what they originally cost. Brand new, these tools were VERY expensive. Some of the ones I have have never even been used.


--like this set of 4R70W seal protectors. The dealership had never used them. I also have the Ford service department teardown/rebuild manuals for this transmission.



I don't know if this is an indication that that particular dealership didn't rebuild these transmissions or, if it's testament to just how good the 4R70W is? ;-)
 
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Old Sep 15, 2015 | 07:35 PM
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I'm glad you posted the pics on the puller Steve. I would have put a dab of grease on the tip of a long bolt threaded the same as the holes and slowly screwed the bolts in. Once bottomed out the bolt/grease to case they would start lifting the pump. Even with grease it would be a risk gouging the aluminum case.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2015 | 07:44 PM
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I'm glad you posted the pics on the puller Steve. I would have put a dab of grease on the tip of a long bolt threaded the same as the holes and slowly screwed the bolts in. Once bottomed out the bolt/grease to case they would start lifting the pump. Even with grease it would be a risk gouging the aluminum case.
Yessir. My dad always told me there's no substitute for the right tool. I guess that's why it never really bothered me to spend money on quality tools to do the job with. They do a better job than using something that wasn't designed to do what you're trying to do with it, or a cheap tool that's supposed to be designed to do what you're trying to do with it, but doesn't do it so well and you end up damaging the part or knocking the bark off your knuckles.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2015 | 07:58 AM
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Yessir. My dad always told me there's no substitute for the right tool. I guess that's why it never really bothered me to spend money on quality tools to do the job with. They do a better job than using something that wasn't designed to do what you're trying to do with it, or a cheap tool that's supposed to be designed to do what you're trying to do with it, but doesn't do it so well and you end up damaging the part or knocking the bark off your knuckles.
I agree with your pops whole heartedly, but sometimes when your boke, ya gotta do things the broke way.

I also was ignorant to the fact that tool kit existed.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2015 | 08:49 AM
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if you dont happen to have 2 slide hammers you can cut off some 1/4 bolts just long enough to meet the lower edge of the pump in the case then slowly screw in some bolts in the threaded holes in the pump to remove the pump.. in the old days we called em jacking bolts, heavy equipment have them on heavy or hard to remove parts
 
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Old Sep 16, 2015 | 09:53 AM
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if you dont happen to have 2 slide hammers you can cut off some 1/4 bolts just long enough to meet the lower edge of the pump in the case then slowly screw in some bolts in the threaded holes in the pump to remove the pump.. in the old days we called em jacking bolts, heavy equipment have them on heavy or hard to remove parts
I just had one slide hammer. A couple of bumps on one side, move to the other, repeat process and shortly there after, the pump came out.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2015 | 10:20 AM
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Ultra, I read it to say if you don't have a slide hammer at all, this is an alternative.


 
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Old Sep 16, 2015 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by TeachNlive4ever
I agree with your pops whole heartedly, but sometimes when your boke, ya gotta do things the broke way.
I agree. It's great to have exactly the right tool at hand, but this is my only project truck so I can't really justify all the tool purchases I would need to do it with the right tool in every situation.

As a house builder, a furniture maker, a cabinet maker, a picture framer, an artist - to list some of the things I have done - I have found that with a little ingenuity you can often work around tool limitations.
 
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