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I am looking to buy a pick-up for medium to heavy hauling and to push snow. I wont be pulling a trailer. Do you think a powerstroke would be overkill. Also, I had a salesperson tell me that pushing snow with a powerstroke would affect the warranty. Is this true.
Personally I will never buy another gas engine truck again. It's a matter of what YOU want. I can't understand why Ford says plowing will void the warranty when they offer a plow package.
I don't know that plowing with a powerstroke would void the warranty. I've never heard that before. I have a powerstroke (my second) but when I sell it the next one I buy will be a v-10. I just don't need the powerstroke. I don't tow or haul anything of consequence. I just love the sound. LOL
If you do heavy hauling then the Powerstroke is right up your alley. The torque is incredible. I have the 6 speed and it's neat to go up a big hill towing and not shift out of 5th gear. (the 6 speed is L, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5)
Get what you want!
You have one guy saying he would never buy another Gas and I will say I will never buy another Diesel. Why? Because I like my V10 more than I liked my PSD. Was eather a bad motor? NO both were great. It is your money and you will drive it. Their is not cost equation that is correct 100 will show the PSD better 100 will show the V10 as better. Guys will defend what the drive because the are to smart to buy something that was not correct for them tight!
I almost always recommend the diesel, but it is certainly overkill for your application. Buy what you want. The diesel will certianly have the low torque advantage over the gas, but the gas weighs a lot less and the truck will be more balanced when empty.
In certain configurations like SC and CC with the PSD the snow plow puts too much weight on the front axle. I think the only way to get the snow plow option in a PSD 4x4 is a Reg cab?
Originally posted by Skeetshooter If your checkbook can handle the PSD go for it... You will present a vehicle with a better resale. Just my thoughts...
Here's my .02 cents. I am in a similar perdicament . . . V10, or PSD??!!
I'm going with the V10 for these reasons.
1st) Cost. Costs more to buy PSD, costs more to repair (parts!), costs more to licence (in our state), costs more to just change the oil! All that extra "cost" puts a lot of gas in the V10.
2nd) Compare the V10 and PSD specs like torque at the Thread at the top of this Forum Category. VERY INFORMATIVE! It's called "Sticky" or "FAQ's" or something like that. The torque difference is not that great.
3rd) Don't like the noise or smell when I go hunting, camping, or just to the grocery store.
4th) Rumors have it that refineries will soon be required to remove more and more sulpher from deisel fuel which will certainly drive up the price.
Chew on that PSD lovers!
Last edited by live2hunt; Aug 4, 2003 at 03:56 PM.
Originally posted by live2hunt Compare the V10 and PSD specs like torque at the Thread at the top of this Forum Category. VERY INFORMATIVE! It's called "Sticky" or "FAQ's" or something like that. The torque difference is not that great.
Although I think the V10 would be better than the diesel in this scenario, it's because of engine weight, not torque. You can't get the plow package in an F250 Super Cab or an F350 Super Cab long bed because of the added weight. Unless you add weight to the bed of the truck, the V10 or even the 5.4 V8 will be much more balanced than a truck with the heavier diesel engine. There is a huge difference between where the torque is produced. The overall torque difference is 100 lb/ft with the old 7.3, and 135 lb/ft with the new 6.0. The torque with the Power Stroke is also produced at a much lower rpm which is more useful for slow speeds. I think even the V10 is overkill for a plow truck. I see a lot of Super Duty plow trucks around here in the winter and most have the 5.4 V8. It may be a small engine, but it produces plenty of low end torque and is the lightest engine of the 3.
John could a lot of that be heat! lets face it a Diesel does not warm up in the winter. Down here it is nothing to worry about but when I was working in North Dakota I froze my but off in my PSD.
I would have to agree that the optimal plow truck would probably have the 5.4 V8. I had its predacessor in my 1994 F250 HD (5.8L V8). I would say the hardest working part of the truck is the transmission, this is where pushing is hard, also, the continual shifting from backwards to forward. The forward weight in the PSD would almost have to be a little dissadvantage. The engine weighs over 900 lbs (plus or minus), 2 big batteries, the plow blade, plow brackets and hardware..... It almost seems like you'd have to weight the bed down to even it out. Maybe even beef up the springs on the front. Anyway, the worst part of plowing with a full size 4x4 is the poor turning radius. They are kind of bulky for small lots, to many manuevers to turn them. Sorry for the long rant, I wanted to get a plow several years ago, but it never seems to snow anymore in Kansas!!!
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