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Old Aug 2, 2003 | 05:48 PM
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Hi -

Has anyone replaced their 30" screw-in antenna mast with a shorter one, like the Scosche 13" model? I'd like to know how happy you are with its performance. I realize that it probably won't be as good as the stock mast, but it won't go boinggggg on my garage door as I'm going in/out either...
 
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Old Aug 2, 2003 | 06:32 PM
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not to sure but can't you get the equivelent of fire sticks for am/fm radios?
 
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Old Aug 2, 2003 | 08:03 PM
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Firesticks? Is that a brand name for a whip antenna? I seem to recall that one of the bands (don't remember whether it's AM or FM or even both) don't do well with nonlinear antennas.
 
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Old Aug 2, 2003 | 08:38 PM
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I have an 87 witht the metal ant. I just removed the litte ball from the end of the mast, put a staight edge on my roof and cut the ant. off at that mark and crimped the little ball back on. I have a small lift and 33 inch tires, I can now judge anything that looks to low to drive under by driving up and seeing if the ant. hits, if it clears then I know I am ok to drive under. I haven't noticed any signal loss, it looks much better and it doesn't drag down the garage door any longer.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2003 | 03:59 PM
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I would get the smaller anttena and if the signal loss is bad you could get a signal booster but I dont think you will need one. i am actually think of putting a power anttena in my truck. I swear it looks like the car wash is going to rip it out when i go thru.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2003 | 04:18 PM
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LOL. That is a little scary, huh =P
Another alternative is a glass-mount antenna. No whips to get in the way. Also makes the truck look a little smoother IMO.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2003 | 05:05 PM
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jc whitney sells a copper core 15" attenta for like 7 bucks it should just screw in place and should give pretty good reception
 
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Old Aug 4, 2003 | 03:23 PM
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i have an 18" billet shorty antenna and didnt notice and signal loss....
 
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Old Aug 4, 2003 | 03:51 PM
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Firesticks? Is that a brand name for a whip antenna? I seem to recall that one of the bands (don't remember whether it's AM or FM or even both) don't do well with nonlinear antennas.
i thought there was an amplified am/fm atenna similar to how a fire stick works, a fire stick is an amplified cb antenna
 
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Old Aug 5, 2003 | 10:14 PM
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Antenna length is determined by the frequency range the antenna is designed to recieve. Shorter antennas are made possible by "loading" the antenna. That is, the same amount of antenna is used, just some of it is coiled around the base of the antenna mount. You can't just cut an existing antenna and expect optimum reception across the entire freq range. Just search around and find an antenna that's manufactured to the lenght you want, it will be properly loaded and you'll have no problems.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2003 | 10:18 PM
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Thanks for the input, Sailor. I'm curious, though...if antennas are determined by the incoming frequency, is a car antenna meant for AM or FM? As I recall there's quite a difference between those two bands.
 
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Old Aug 6, 2003 | 07:58 AM
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antenna theory is pretty heavy stuff. I guess the short answer is that your car antenna is a compromise between the two bands. You'll notice that most vehicle radios don't recieve AM as well as your home stereo with an AM antenna does.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 10:43 AM
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Originally posted by superswamper
jc whitney sells a copper core 15" attenta for like 7 bucks it should just screw in place and should give pretty good reception
Hmm...I couldn't find that particular antenna on their web site. There is an 18" "billet" antenna for about $13 -- the price is fine, but I'd like to find a black one. Anyone else have a source? Thanks...
 
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 03:57 PM
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actually you won't find that much of a difference cutting off the antenna unless it's a big chuck. but even then, it will only shorten the range. when get new cars in, Ford installs a little metal stub just to get reception while moving it. but don't expect to hear far off staions. the AM band relies heavily on car body for a ground plane to catch ground wave signal. thats why you notice the higher you drive the better your FM reception is. AM what the hell is that now days anyway ? talk shows ? what ever style you chose should be better for you. that ball on the end cuts the static build up down...... maybe Radio Shack, or any place with an auto section should have something.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 09:14 PM
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Seems like now-a-days antennas are sized for best reception in the FM band. Efficiency on the AM band was usually accomplished by an internal "tuning" circuit, to account for the short antenna length. These were often adjusted for sensitivity with a small adjustment screw on the back of the radio. For FM the formula for a 1/4 wave antenna lenth at 100 MHZ on the dial in inches would be 2808 divided by the frquency in MHZ (100) divided by 2......or roughly 14 inches in about the middle of the FM band.........just some more stuff you probably really don't want to know .best of luck
 
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