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Old Aug 27, 2015 | 01:29 AM
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Does anyone have a link that will show me how to disassemble a front hub so I can replace the vacuum seal. The left front ESOF hub will not hold a vacuum. I checked directly with a vacuum pump. The right one will lock. I didn't see anything in the Tech folder that was what I was after. This is new territory for me--I have cleaned and lubed the hubs but have not adventured to this level
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Old Aug 27, 2015 | 02:19 AM
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See if this helps: Welcome to guzzle's 4x4 Needle Bearing Maintenance Web Page

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Old Aug 27, 2015 | 08:03 AM
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So is it the yellow o ring which is the source of the vacuum failure? If so, is there a parts kit to replace the washers and o ring or ??? My dealer was telling me something like $750
 
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Old Aug 27, 2015 | 08:34 AM
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So is it the yellow o ring which is the source of the vacuum failure? If so, is there a parts kit to replace the washers and o ring or ??? My dealer was telling me something like $750
Yes, I bought just the yellow seal, it was 5-6 years ago and it may have had the black seal for the ESOF hub also. I want to say it was $20 or so. The link has the kit part number(s).
 
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Old Aug 27, 2015 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Watcher58
So is it the yellow o ring which is the source of the vacuum failure?
Rob answered your question, but Bob (Guzzle) is also a great resource and has answered my questions many times before I ordered from him (Bob is also Diesel O-Rings: DieselOrings ).

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Old Aug 27, 2015 | 10:16 PM
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Thanks. I just left him a message so hopefully he can tell me what I need
 
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Old Aug 28, 2015 | 08:33 AM
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Well- just got a message back from Bob. They changed the hub assembly in 05 to where the seal has to be pressed in with a special tool. Wonder how challenging that is?
 
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Old Aug 28, 2015 | 08:50 AM
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Well- just got a message back from Bob. They changed the hub assembly in 05 to where the seal has to be pressed in with a special tool. Wonder how challenging that is?
I'm guessing he means 05 F250/350, because I did my 05 Excursion and all of the parts looked like the ones in his tutorial.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2015 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by RobRoss
I'm guessing he means 05 F250/350, because I did my 05 Excursion and all of the parts looked like the ones in his tutorial.
So you had that yellow o ring and no press seal?


I'm assuming you have to take it off the truck to work on it??
 
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Old Aug 28, 2015 | 04:18 PM
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Unless you swapped to the 05+ axles you most likely have the 99-04 stuff.

1975stroppebaja has another solid tech page in the tech folder, all part numbers displayed so you can walk into the local Ford dealer and pick them up.
 
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Originally Posted by Watcher58
Well- just got a message back from Bob. They changed the hub assembly in 05 to where the seal has to be pressed in with a special tool. Wonder how challenging that is?
Originally Posted by RobRoss
I'm guessing he means 05 F250/350, because I did my 05 Excursion and all of the parts looked like the ones in his tutorial.

Common point of confusion with the '05 EX, use the same parts as an '04 EX/SD, the EX didn't change in '05 like the SD pickups did.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2015 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Watcher58
So you had that yellow o ring and no press seal?


I'm assuming you have to take it off the truck to work on it??
Yes, follow Guzzles step by step and you shouldn't have any issues. I recall you need a thin wall 13/16 socket to get the hub off. Once the hub is off, there is an axle seal that needs to be driven on but that doesn't affect the ESOF hubs. I only changed the yellow o ring and the smaller black o rings on both sides. I was in the garage earlier and found the pn I used, F81Z 4A322 AA. That should be the yellow seal, order 2.
 

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Originally Posted by RobRoss
Yes, follow Guzzles step by step and you shouldn't have any issues. I recall you need a thin wall 13/16 socket to get the hub off. Once the hub is off, there is an axle seal that needs to be driven on but that doesn't affect the ESOF hubs. I only changed the yellow o ring and the smaller black o rings on both sides. I was in the garage earlier and found the pn I used, F81Z 4A322 AA. That should be the yellow seal, order 2.
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Old Aug 29, 2015 | 07:44 AM
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You're welcome, glad to give back a little help!
 
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Old Aug 29, 2015 | 02:53 PM
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Sent Bob at Guzzles an email. Service write up on needle bearings service said yellow o ring most common cause of vacuum leak in hubs. Grampy-Jim "Certified Ford Master Tech" on same page says its the knuckle seal. I am asking Jim which is most common for him--one looks like a minor PIA, the other looks more like a major PIA. Either way, looks like a PIA.
 
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