clutch return spring?
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clutch return spring?
The return spring on my 66f100/3 speed manual looks like a couple throttle return springs twisted together. I have a new one on the way...
I noticed the current spring is wired around the engine tower. How is the correct one supposed to mount? I've spent a little time down there and don't see an obvious way to mount it.
On a side note I have a crappy Chilton manual for this. Is there a serious shop manual available? I have one for one of my other vehicles and it is great! Then I won't have to ask so many dumb questions...
I noticed the current spring is wired around the engine tower. How is the correct one supposed to mount? I've spent a little time down there and don't see an obvious way to mount it.
On a side note I have a crappy Chilton manual for this. Is there a serious shop manual available? I have one for one of my other vehicles and it is great! Then I won't have to ask so many dumb questions...
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Most of the major Ford Truck parts retailers sell the Factory Workshop Manual in either paper form or on CD-ROM. The CD is about $30, the 4 volume paper version is near $100. Also extremely helpful and on CD-ROM for near $22 is the '64-'72 Ford Truck Master Parts and Accesssories Catalog which gives you an illustrated parts breakdown of every part on the truck (near enough) and part numbers with discriptions (sometimes). This is really good value for the money. There are other useful pieces of tech data as well including the owner's manual, wiring diagram, and body/interior assembly manual. You can never have too much information. Hope this helps.
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I'm not sure exactly which spring you are referring to. The spring underneath that holds the clutch linkage together or the clutch pedal return spring which mounts under the dash. Neither have any mounting point on the engine.
I'll be happy to post pictures of mine if you'll be more specific about which spring you are replacing.
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I'm not sure exactly which spring you are referring to. The spring underneath that holds the clutch linkage together or the clutch pedal return spring which mounts under the dash. Neither have any mounting point on the engine.
I'll be happy to post pictures of mine if you'll be more specific about which spring you are replacing.
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I'm not sure exactly which spring you are referring to. The spring underneath that holds the clutch linkage together or the clutch pedal return spring which mounts under the dash. Neither have any mounting point on the engine.
I'll be happy to post pictures of mine if you'll be more specific about which spring you are replacing.
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I'm not sure exactly which spring you are referring to. The spring underneath that holds the clutch linkage together or the clutch pedal return spring which mounts under the dash. Neither have any mounting point on the engine.
I'll be happy to post pictures of mine if you'll be more specific about which spring you are replacing.
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The one underneath that holds the linkage together. ND has posted a diagram on other threads that shows the spring I am referring to but it doesn't show where the other (non clutch linkage end) goes.
The pedal also pivots the first time you push it. You can feel the brake pedal move under your other foot as soon as the clutch pedal Is pressed. I have to remove the seat so that will give me more room to get under there and see what is going on.
Thanks for your help!
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Posting a link to Diag. of brake/clutch components from Fordification 67-72 Forum, which should be same/similar to 65-66? Appears there's a spring that runs from the 'clutch release arm' to a location on the frame? Basically want to insure sufficient tension on the clutch release arm ( #7523) with the clutch release adjust rod. Am certain other member's will be chiming in with further suggestions.
With regards to the Shop manual, I have both the 3 vol shop manual, not familiar with the shop CD, but did purchase the 64-72 Ford Truck Master Parts and Accessories CD, which I found takes time to learn how to maneuver thru. perhaps too much info.; whereas, IMO shop manual not enough when it comes to assembling diag??
http://www.fordification.com/tech/im...e_pedals02.jpg
With regards to the Shop manual, I have both the 3 vol shop manual, not familiar with the shop CD, but did purchase the 64-72 Ford Truck Master Parts and Accessories CD, which I found takes time to learn how to maneuver thru. perhaps too much info.; whereas, IMO shop manual not enough when it comes to assembling diag??
http://www.fordification.com/tech/im...e_pedals02.jpg
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The 1965/66 pic doesn't show it, but the 1967/72 pic does. The clutch pedal return spring hooks to the clutch release lever (fork) and then into a hole in the frame rail in front of the outer clutch equalizer (Z) bar pivot.
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There are a couple holes in the frame that might have held a bracket at one time if there is such an animal?
The adjustable rod (I think I've heard it referred to as a crayon) looks like it could have been repaired or home made so who knows if this is factory stuff?
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The spring I bought won't reach. My vin (776872) calls for the shorter spring. It is maybe 5 inches long.
There are a couple holes in the frame that might have held a bracket at one time if there is such an animal?
The adjustable rod (I think I've heard it referred to as a crayon) looks like it could have been repaired or home made so who knows if this is factory stuff?
There are a couple holes in the frame that might have held a bracket at one time if there is such an animal?
The adjustable rod (I think I've heard it referred to as a crayon) looks like it could have been repaired or home made so who knows if this is factory stuff?
The extension isn't threaded, it slips onto the threaded rod and is double nutted in place.
1965/72 F100/250 2WD & 1967/72 F350.
GREEN SALES CO. in Cincinnati OH has 2 = 800-543-4959.
NOS PARTS LTD in Waxahachie TX has 8 = 972-937-2201.
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C7TZ-7523-F .. Clutch Return Spring-4.60" free length with 35 coils / Obsolete
1965 F100/250 2WD / 1966 F100/250 2WD before serial number 830,001.
CARPENTER NOS OBSOLETE PARTS in Concord NC has 21 = 800-476-9653.
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By the way I appreciate all the effort you put in to part#s and the effort you make on your posts with multi-colors and bold facing etc. I realize how time consuming it is and thank you!
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Lower pic is 1967/68 F100/350, shows the 7523 clutch return spring attaching to a hole on the frame rail in front of the 7507 outer equalizer bar pivot.
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At the bottom of this thread I saw another thread on the same subject and I read this...
"The spring goes between the clutch throwout fork and the Z bar shaft...its basicly an anti rattle as well as to keep the fork in the end of the adjuster tip."
I went out and got a flashlight to give this a try but we just got a lot of rain so it will have to wait until tomorrow morning. Kinda chilly outside. Ocasionally still triple digits out this time of night.
"The spring goes between the clutch throwout fork and the Z bar shaft...its basicly an anti rattle as well as to keep the fork in the end of the adjuster tip."
I went out and got a flashlight to give this a try but we just got a lot of rain so it will have to wait until tomorrow morning. Kinda chilly outside. Ocasionally still triple digits out this time of night.
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as well as to keep the fork in the end of the adjuster tip."Look at this '65/66 pic: 7562 is the anti-rattle spring, attaches to the 7515 clutch fork and then hooks to the 7522 trunnion that was originally riveted to the bell housing.
When replaced, some Ford techs used bolts/nuts instead.
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Swapped the 6cyl for small block V8 25 plus years ago and no longer had a use for the spring. If memory serves me, it was a minimum of 9" long, and not a high tension spring. If I read the Shop manual correctly, clearance between the spherical adjustment rod to the clutch release lever is 1/4", I adjusted to insure the adjustment rod did not drop down? Perhaps more knowledgeable member can chime in for clarification?
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At the bottom of this thread I saw another thread on the same subject and I read this...
"The spring goes between the clutch throwout fork and the Z bar shaft...its basicly an anti rattle as well as to keep the fork in the end of the adjuster tip."
I went out and got a flashlight to give this a try but we just got a lot of rain so it will have to wait until tomorrow morning. Kinda chilly outside. Ocasionally still triple digits out this time of night.
"The spring goes between the clutch throwout fork and the Z bar shaft...its basicly an anti rattle as well as to keep the fork in the end of the adjuster tip."
I went out and got a flashlight to give this a try but we just got a lot of rain so it will have to wait until tomorrow morning. Kinda chilly outside. Ocasionally still triple digits out this time of night.
The 7523 clutch return spring has nothing to do with anti-rattling.
Look at this '65/66 pic: 7562 is the anti-rattle spring, attaches to the 7515 clutch fork and then hooks to the 7522 trunnion that was originally riveted to the bell housing.
When replaced, some Ford techs used bolts/nuts instead.
Look at this '65/66 pic: 7562 is the anti-rattle spring, attaches to the 7515 clutch fork and then hooks to the 7522 trunnion that was originally riveted to the bell housing.
When replaced, some Ford techs used bolts/nuts instead.
Unless I am missing something(which is a strong possibility) there is no way my 4.8 inch spring is going to stretch all the way to the hole in the frame shown in the 1967 diagram. I think that setup calls for the much longer, thinner spring which has the same part# except for the last letter. I think I read that it is 14" long.
The spring I have looks like the one in the 1965-66 diagram for 6 cylinder applications(to the far right of the diagram about 1/2 way down. It is labeled 7523 but is quite different from the one shown in the 1967 diagram.
Unfortunately the diagram that shows the correct spring doesn't show where the other end goes. I am also curious why they changed it to the (apparently) later style.