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Old Jul 30, 2015 | 07:55 PM
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Ok....now what?

Van has been running great, No issues. I looked under the hood and realized the distributor vacuum advance hose had come off from the carb. I put it back on with some hose clamps, revved the engine and got this gnarly low lumpy popping in the engine. I put the timing light on it and its fine at idle but goes way too the left when revved. Any ideas?
 
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Old Jul 30, 2015 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by voodoolord
Van has been running great, No issues. I looked under the hood and realized the distributor vacuum advance hose had come off from the carb. I put it back on with some hose clamps, revved the engine and got this gnarly low lumpy popping in the engine. I put the timing light on it and its fine at idle but goes way too the left when revved. Any ideas?
Generally speaking that's what it's supposed to do up to 32*-36* (total timing) and be all in at about 3200-3500 for a truck with towing duties ..
 
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Old Jul 30, 2015 | 08:05 PM
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Ya but its not running right with the vacuum attached. What would cause that?
 
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Old Jul 30, 2015 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by voodoolord
Ya but its not running right with the vacuum attached. What would cause that?
Do you currently have an egr valve hooked up? What carb are you running? and where on the carb are you pulling vacuum?

It also could be your initial timing is to far advanced already ..
 
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Old Jul 30, 2015 | 08:11 PM
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No egr, I need to put one on. 650 thunder series carb, the vacuum is connected to the left vacuum port. Performer intake.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2015 | 08:13 PM
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No egr, I need to put one on. 650 thunder series carb, the vacuum is connected to the left vacuum port. Performer intake.
Have you done anything to recurve the distributor to compensate for the lack of the egr ?
 
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Old Jul 30, 2015 | 08:14 PM
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Are you running a Duraspark II distributor ?
 
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Old Jul 30, 2015 | 08:18 PM
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heres the routing of the vacuum from the valve covers to the intake. Looking from the front of the engine left rear goes to the air filter, right front goes to the center vacuum port on the carb. Brake booster goes to a fitting on the manifold.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2015 | 08:20 PM
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Duraspark I think. And I got egr confused with PCV. The EGR is set right as far as I can tell, maybe you can tell me otherwise?
 
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Old Jul 30, 2015 | 08:28 PM
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We're talking about a 460 motor right?

Egr plate sits under the carb on a stock intake manifold

 
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Old Jul 30, 2015 | 08:31 PM
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Nope that's not there. Im thinking of the hose routing from the oil filler on the rocker covers.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2015 | 08:32 PM
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And yes its a 460. That's the only engine I have on my fords.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2015 | 08:33 PM
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If your running a performer intake then it's not there and if it's a 1978 460 then your running a Duraspark II distributor if it's stock .. In which case you'll need to recurve the distributor to get it running correctly ..
 
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Old Jul 30, 2015 | 08:39 PM
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So it needs to be recurved if the intake is replaced? Period? I looked for recurve kits and found nothing locally.
 
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The emissions 460 with egr had the distributor set up with a timing that was only correct to run with an egr .. If the egr is taken off the distributors mechanical timing will be wrong for the motor .. you have 2 options either buy a distributor that is already recurved or recurve the one you have ..
 
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