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Old Aug 15, 2002 | 06:48 AM
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Good luck Kenny! you can do it just set your mind to it.






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Old Aug 15, 2002 | 06:56 AM
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Smoked close to 3 packs a day for 6 years. Quit about 20 years ago on third try. What finally worked was toothpicks. I chewed toothpicks for five years and then gave that up. The floor of my pickup was littered with gnawed toothpicks , but it worked!

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Old Aug 15, 2002 | 08:53 AM
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First to Icelander: I am in full agreement to your your post. I will never try and dictate any lifestyle or lifestyle changes upon anyone or in any society. I believe everything in moderation. It is not my intention to make you do, or not do anything. What I can tell you is what it feels like to be told you HAVE cancer. It sucks, especially if it is not a result of lifestyle.

What I was trying to point out is that if one has control over their lifestyle, and chooses to exercise some restraint over activities that are definitely carcinogenic, then they will not be sorrowful for some poor lifestyle choices when they contract life threatening diseases. I think people early in life can't see, nor even imagine their own demise, so they make choices without regard to the consequences. Only after they have to confront those consequences, do they get a retrospective contrition, usually too late to affect the inevitable outcome. I once sat next to a guy that was no older than 30 who was batlling colon cancer. No way was he going to see his kids grow up. I don't for a minute think his lifestyle contributed to his disease, (he was too young), yet the fikle finger of fate marked him for certain premature death.

So yes, life is like Russian roulette, yet there is a good chance one will survive without these unannounced one way tickets to the next life, but why would anyone want to contribute to that ticket on a daily basis? You are correct, we are here for only a short time, yet why would one want to purposely pre-empt their stay, and also create an most miserable way to exit this life? Perhaps the hedonistic lifestyle is worth it to some folks. I do not begrudge them their choice.

Now Kenny: You have probably come as close as you want to come to hearing the deadly phrase: "you have cancer". Two nodules in you lungs are pretty scary, indeed. There are many things you can do in your life to begin to correct the possible outcome of those nodules. It is diet, vitamin and herbal supplements, and exerise. I think the one thing that you have learned is that smoking cigarettes is a one way ticket on the express train to a miserable untimely death. Please hang in there and use your computer to search the internet for anti-cancer web sites. There are many that can help anyone deal with these deadly diseases. Good luck to you, and I hope you remain in good health. Contact me if you would like to know more about alternative treatment and internet sites. Perhaps your wake up call will spur you into action. Let's hope so.

For everyone: In summary, I think if anyone, I don't care who it is, is truly faced with the contemplation of their own mortality, then they will react in such a way to preserve themselves in any way that they can.
Those that say they don't care about their own demise are fooling themselves and attempting to reinforce their own self denial by seeking the appproval of others. My experience has shown me that once one has to confront their own mortatlity, then one takes an entirely different view upon their existence. What they do with that reaction will reshape the quality of the remainder of their life.
Sorry for the lengthy post. Pax Vobis ***.....Brien:-)
 
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Old Aug 15, 2002 | 09:07 AM
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Kenny, my thoughts are with you buddy. I read your post and could feel the pain in the words. I was lucky, cigarettes never had that strong a hold on me, even after 15 years. Seeing what they did to my dad made it easy for me to quit. I encourage you to get whatever help you need to stop. You've both recognized and voiced a desire to take control of your future and curb the damage. As I said before, I would never tell anyone what to do. What I will do however is strongly support your decision. Hopefully the very act of writing this post has started the process. I really think you're on the track. Seeing what emphysema can do, I will do anything I can to support you. If it helps to talk, email me at hotwhlz85@triad.rr.com

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Old Aug 15, 2002 | 04:06 PM
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Im 39 I smoke...
Been smoking cigarettes (Camel nofilters) for about 10 years. How I got started smoking cigs at such a late age? I quit smoking pot. Started smoking that stuff when I was 15. (gateway drug...who a thunk)I was a regular pot head used it all day long. That was then...

Now I have my life together. I'm a husband and the father of two beutiful children. I swore before the birth of both of them that I would quit before they were born. They are my reason to quit. Now they are getting older (5 and 7) and I need more energy to keep up.

Quitting is hard for me. For those who say that they can quit "no problem" great for them. For me it is a problem.

I have quit several times. The longist was 6 months using Zyban. Then one day at work my skin started to crawl and my hair stood on end and I couldn't sit still. I thought I was going nuts and explained it to a lady in the office. She said that I was having an anxiety attack. Something I have had only once in my life when I got too far into the attic in the summer and thought I was not going to make it to the hatch before I would pass out. At that time I didn't know it had a name. I was just as scared and felt helpless to do anything to stop it. I attributed it to the Zyban and quit taking it.

The patch worked till I got to the littie ones. Then I would stick 2 or 3 of those on at one time. I even thought of pasting one between my cheek and gum. That was another habit I had before pot (snuff).

Like I said...I'm 39 my time is tickin'

My last deadline (no pun intended) thats been in the back of my head for the past 5 years is to quit before I'm 40.

Times Up

I see my Dad playing with my kids and I think...I hope I'm so lucky.


 
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Old Aug 15, 2002 | 04:14 PM
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>
> i see......so cancer of the mouth, gums or maybe the throat
>is ok, but youll be damned if its in your lungs. good
>thinking.


Who are you to pass judgement?
 
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Old Aug 15, 2002 | 04:48 PM
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I don't smoke, but i just needed to say this: Will somebody PLEASE kick that darn soapbox out from underneath brienobriens feet?
I figure hey if somebody wants to smoke, its their drug of choice! It could be worse,they could be hooked on drugs like ecstacy, crack, heroin, and far more illegal things than cigarettes. I realize that cigarettes may kill them, but who cares lifes only a race to see what kills you first anyways, so why listen to those liberal's who tell you what to do? I figure everything I do, that if I'm hurting someone either they need to tell me or do something about it. And im a fairly nice guy so ill prolly stop when you tell me. I go by the saying Live For The Moment. I think everyone else should just do what they want if its botherin me ill tell em. (by the way, b4 you go tellin me that I'm jus a little punk 15 year old kid with no experience in this world, maybe you should re-read what i jus typed,and maybe it don't make sense to you, but to me it does.) Peace, I'm out.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2002 | 05:00 PM
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>>
>> i see......so cancer of the mouth, gums or maybe the throat
>>is ok, but youll be damned if its in your lungs. good
>>thinking.
>
>
>Who are you to pass judgement?


my point exacly. who am i?......who are you?

 
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Old Aug 15, 2002 | 05:10 PM
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First, I never said a thing about cancer. I was talking about getting infections. Second, all things in moderation. I smoke maybe 20 cigars a year. My odds of cancer from that are slim but I know I'm rolling the dice.

Do you drink alcohol?
 
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Old Aug 15, 2002 | 05:26 PM
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> First to Icelander: I am in full agreement to your your
>post. I will never try and dictate any lifestyle or
>lifestyle changes upon anyone or in any society. I believe
>everything in moderation. It is not my intention to make
>you do, or not do anything. What I can tell you is what it
>feels like to be told you HAVE cancer. It sucks, especially
>if it is not a result of lifestyle.


if you read my "what would you do" thread, youd know that i know what it feels like to face mortality. i was told that i may have a brain tumor and went through a week of wonder and worry until i could get in for a CT scan. the scan was negative for a tumor. now i am waiting for the results of my MRI of the brain to see if i have MS or not. i have b-12 deficiancy anemia and they dont know why. it has NOTHING to do with my lifestyle, believe me i asked! like i said..i live my life thinking this day could be my last and make the most of each of them. dont confuse that with " live fast, die young, and leave a beautiful coarpse"
 
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Old Aug 15, 2002 | 09:10 PM
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>First, I never said a thing about cancer. I was talking
>about getting infections. Second, all things in moderation.
> I smoke maybe 20 cigars a year. My odds of cancer from
>that are slim but I know I'm rolling the dice.
>
>Do you drink alcohol?


in post #5 i said " i drink beer knowing that it may not be good for me". your comment " I smoke maybe 20 cigars a year. My odds of getting cancer from that are slim but I know I'm rolling the dice." further proves my point.

going to sleep at night could be the last thing you do in your life, you roll the dice everyday.......hope for a 7 or snake eyes.

 
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Old Aug 15, 2002 | 09:51 PM
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Thank you so much for the very kind words of encouragement and support! I will beat this addiction, and if the lung nodules turn cancerous, then I will beat that too.
I personally thank Brien for this thread.

Everyone please know that just because I've come to a realization about myself here and I am really looking down on myself at the moment, I would never judge or look down on anyone else.

May we all live to be of a ripe old age.


 
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Old Aug 18, 2002 | 03:37 AM
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I've been smoking since I was 15, but not steady until I was 22; I am now 48. In the last few years I've accosted by non-smokers, even having one woman throw water in my face and a man threaten to "take" my cigarettes from me. Both times I was in a smoking allowed area. I have a few words for non-smokers: "Stay the hell out of my life." As long as anyone operates a petroleum-fueled motor vehicle, they cannot say a word about the threat of second-hand smoke to their lives since operating that vehicle for 30 minutes produces far more carcinogens and toxic gases than I would if I smoked an entire carton of cigarettes. An fossil-fuel electric powerplant makes more in 30 seconds while being perfectly legal. There are more legally allowed toxic agents such as arsenic and lead in the water you drink than in second-hand smoke. I agree that the smoker greatly increases his risk for health problems; but life itself is a risk. You live with your decisions you make in your life and nobody should have the right to tell you what you can do with your own body and personal property.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2002 | 01:08 PM
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>I don't smoke, but i just needed to say this: Will somebody
>PLEASE kick that darn soapbox out from underneath
>brienobriens feet?
>I figure hey if somebody wants to smoke, its their drug of
>choice! It could be worse,they could be hooked on drugs like
>ecstacy, crack, heroin, and far more illegal things than
>cigarettes. I realize that cigarettes may kill them, but who
>cares lifes only a race to see what kills you first anyways,
>so why listen to those liberal's who tell you what to do? I
>figure everything I do, that if I'm hurting someone either
>they need to tell me or do something about it. And im a
>fairly nice guy so ill prolly stop when you tell me. I go by
>the saying Live For The Moment. I think everyone else should
>just do what they want if its botherin me ill tell em. (by
>the way, b4 you go tellin me that I'm jus a little punk 15
>year old kid with no experience in this world, maybe you
>should re-read what i jus typed,and maybe it don't make
>sense to you, but to me it does.) Peace, I'm out.

76: Ahh, doth thee protest too much? I don't see anywhere in my initial post where I am preaching to anyone. Just asking some questions and stating some facts.:-)

I don't ever tell anyone how to live their lives, and most folks on this forum know from my posts, I am anything but a liberal. However, call me what you wish. You are very angry.

I have no intention of calling you a little punk kid. Can't know who you are, really. Besides, I do not call people names, it is very immature. ( A five year old?) I am saying that it is the worst feeling in the world to be told you have cancer. I know first hand, but I am not looking for anyone's sympathy. Thank God I don't have lung cancer, and I am happy to not be addicted to anything.


I think that everyone who is addicted to smoking may have to try the cancer shoe on for size. They will then understand the empty ,hollow, and lonely feeling, of this diagnosis. I know they can't very well empathize with the feeling, and perhaps that is why they continue to smoke. I know a guy who had a scare for lung cancer, promised "God" he would never smoke again if his tests turned out negative. Well they did, and he went right back to smoking. I guess it will take a Camel(the real thing) to do the job, after it is too late.

Sorry you are so angry man. I am not. I see you say "I live for the moment" Good for you, but do you know why? Chances are you will be on the planet tommorow, so please keep in mind, a hedonistic lifestyle will usually catch up with the participant. I live every day for itself also. I am as healthy as I can be, and I am thankful for that. This is why I treat my body with the respect I think it deserves. I do expect to be on earth tomorrow, but I am equally as sure it is a temporary situation.
I will never attempt to stop anyone from doing anything that only harms themselves. I personally make different choices and live with the consequences. This is all we can do. I do wish you well and sorry if you misunderstand the post.

Good luck and best of health. :-)
 
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Old Aug 19, 2002 | 01:54 PM
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I may get flamed for this but I like the direction that our state has taken with respect to smoking. No smoking in public buildings or resturants. I remember when the resturant bill went thru. Let's just say that reports of the king's death were grossly overstated. In fact, a local road house that was quickly losing our business picked it back up again when it went to a smokeless dining room. We're all for personal rights and responsibilities here are we not? You do to your body what you want and I'll do to mine what I want? I can sit in my car at a stop light with the windows open on a hot day. A smoker pulls up next to me and exhales out her window, right into my car. Who's infrigning on WHOSE rights? I can walk down the street behind someone who is a heavy smoker and smell the stench of "smoker smell". And that smell gets into everything. that's why hotels have smoking and non-smoking rooms. It's almost as bad as someone who wears too much "hippy stink" - no offense to anyone who likes the patchouli-oil smell, I dont. I took my wife and son to the local public beach Saturday (we've been having a heat wave here in the northeast). Old Orchard Beach is pretty clean. The town does a credible job of cleaning it. But, the one constant is - cigarette butts. My 3 year old was digging in the sand and found 4 of them. I walk every other morning. 2 miles on our road. Yeah, cholesterol is a problem and hopefully walking will help along with diet. Anyhow, there's trash here and there. But the butts and cigarette packs are everywhere.
You have a right to smoke in a public place where it may be allowed but I have a right to be in that public place and NOT smell it and walk over your butts. Yeah I hate breathing diesel exhaust and blue hair haze too.
 
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