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Old Jul 3, 2015 | 02:49 PM
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quick bed bolts question

Ordered the bed bolts set from Dennis Carpenter. They are all the same length, which didn't seem to be a problem, except that the two bolts closest to the cab are only 3.75" long, whereas the Ford OEM longest bolts are 4.25". I thought someone on the forum had said that the DC bolts were all of the longest variety (e.g. 4.25"). The ones closest to the cab won't work - they are too short. Anyone else have this issue?
 
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Old Jul 4, 2015 | 03:05 AM
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I did not know they were different lengths.. maybe you can contact the distributor and they can make it right for you
 
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Old Jun 23, 2020 | 05:23 PM
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same exact problem here. anyone have this issue ?
 
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Old Jun 23, 2020 | 05:28 PM
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Just put my bed on yesterday and front bolts are to short as well, I did manage to get the nuts on an flat washer but not the lock washer and the nut is not quite flush to bottom of bolt,,mine came from Dennis Carpenter as well
 
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Old Jun 23, 2020 | 06:04 PM
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The factory bolts on my truck has 2 shorter bolts and the rest are the same longer length. Have you tried swapping them around to see if they fit somewhere else?
 
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Old Jun 23, 2020 | 08:57 PM
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all mine are the same length . came from carpenter. tried to get carriage bolts , which i could but the head is wrong. too small diameter.
they have made in china on them and have the long square shank. probably hard to match. lowes didnt have them either. going to contact carpenter
and see if they have addressed this before. post if you find a solution. checked fastenal as well, nothing there.

thanks
 
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Old Jun 24, 2020 | 06:40 AM
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Ordered the Carpenter set for my Highboy because they said they fit all models. WRONG. My truck had longer bolts in the front and rear holes. The Carpenter bolts are all 3 3/4" long which is fine for the center four spots but Highboys need 4 1/4" for the other four (rear and front). Took four to a local machine shop and they made them longer for me. Cost me a lot to bolt the bed down properly
 
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Old Jun 24, 2020 | 08:14 AM
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Same issue here and I bought mine from bronco graveyard
 
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Old Jun 24, 2020 | 12:02 PM
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. Took four to a local machine shop and they made them longer for me. Cost me a lot to bolt the bed down properly
That's odd. Why would you have a shop, or rather why would a shop add length to a shaft of a common carriage bolt? I would like to think any company would turn you away and send you to the local hardware shop.

I got all my carriage bolts at the local ACE hardware. I saw no point in paying what DC wants for them when the same thing is way cheaper and local.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2020 | 05:00 PM
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Throwing this out there, because this happened to me, which might be a possible solution.
Back in 2008 I bought my 1995 F-150, which had front end accident damage (not salvaged), bought another 95 F-150 for the body parts, it was a retirement project at that time. Anyway, over the last 20 plus years I developed a relationship W/a particular local Ford Dealership parts guy and one day while I was talking W/him at the Parts counter, I mentioned I wanted to paint the bed bolts on my 1995 F-150, but two of them were really pitted. He told me to wait, he went into the shop and returned W/a large plastic container of bed bolts, he referred to them as "pre-expended" and he asked me which two bolts were rusty, he picked two out and gave them to me. Obviously, he knew the lengths would be what I needed.
You might take one of your bolts to your local Ford dealership and ask if they have the lengths you need, it's worth a shot.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2020 | 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by kwe45919
That's odd. Why would you have a shop, or rather why would a shop add length to a shaft of a common carriage bolt? I would like to think any company would turn you away and send you to the local hardware shop.

I got all my carriage bolts at the local ACE hardware. I saw no point in paying what DC wants for them when the same thing is way cheaper and local.
I am assuming he meant the length of the bolt directly under the head of the bolt. They are a lot longer there than most carriage bolt you can buy at the local hardware store. The longer ones go in the front and rear and the shorter in the middle. These are original Ford bolts off of my 73 highboy laid out just like I removed them.


 
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Old Jun 25, 2020 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by EQCMCAT
Throwing this out there, because this happened to me, which might be a possible solution.
Back in 2008 I bought my 1995 F-150, which had front end accident damage (not salvaged), bought another 95 F-150 for the body parts, it was a retirement project at that time. Anyway, over the last 20 plus years I developed a relationship W/a particular local Ford Dealership parts guy and one day while I was talking W/him at the Parts counter, I mentioned I wanted to paint the bed bolts on my 1995 F-150, but two of them were really pitted. He told me to wait, he went into the shop and returned W/a large plastic container of bed bolts, he referred to them as "pre-expended" and he asked me which two bolts were rusty, he picked two out and gave them to me. Obviously, he knew the lengths would be what I needed.
You might take one of your bolts to your local Ford dealership and ask if they have the lengths you need, it's worth a shot.
It is always worth a shot! My local Ford dealer can do without business as far as I am concerned. The parts house is not very accommodating. Happened more than once on different things but, I went in for a square and round key for my 78 Ford last week, I know they have some. Couldn't even get up from the desk across the room, says "We don't cut keys" and is "pretty sure there arent any in the old stock." Wouldn't look, wouldn't tell me "I'm sorry, we got rid of all of those because..." Just says "we don't cut keys." Now tell me this; If I need a key fob, which I have, would that warrant getting up?
Sorry for the release, seemed like the right spot.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2020 | 06:16 PM
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The lazy S.O.B is probably the first to cry “nobody buys original parts, everybody wants cheap”, but will not get off their dead *** to help you buy original Ford parts. Sad part is it is highly probable you were looking at the parts manager!
 
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Old Jun 26, 2020 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by 73 hi-boy 428 fe
I am assuming he meant the length of the bolt directly under the head of the bolt. They are a lot longer there than most carriage bolt you can buy at the local hardware store. The longer ones go in the front and rear and the shorter in the middle. These are original Ford bolts off of my 73 highboy laid out just like I removed them.
Still, I do not understand why a shop would do this. Adding metal then grinding to square? Just sounds like a lot of crap to go through but I guess if that's all you got......

All my bolts were long shoulder carriage bolts. Like I said, got'em at the local ACE store. Tractor or Farm supply shops usually carry them around here.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2020 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by kwe45919
Still, I do not understand why a shop would do this. Adding metal then grinding to square? Just sounds like a lot of crap to go through but I guess if that's all you got......

All my bolts were long shoulder carriage bolts. Like I said, got'em at the local ACE store. Tractor or Farm supply shops usually carry them around here.
I have never seen these at Ace or Tractor supply , if you can find them at your local stores , is there an item number or anything you could point us to so we could order them ? I would still like to find the longer ones myself but the square shank on a bed bolt is close to 1 inch or more long , all I can find at Ace or anywhere only have the standard size shank around 1/4" or so long on a carriage bolts , cant seem to find the longer square shank part of the carriage bolts anywhere else
 
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