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Old Jun 23, 2015 | 03:18 PM
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What motor is this

The vin says it is a 351m but there is a 4barrel on it. Not sure if the motor is stock or if intake was replaced. Just trying to find out what i have ao i can get ordering parts. Thanks.




 
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Old Jun 23, 2015 | 03:29 PM
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Well it is definitely not a 351m/400 because it doesnt have splayed valves. May be a 351w. May be a 302. Seems like it should have the exhaust manifold bolts in a straight line if it either of those.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2015 | 03:35 PM
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Looks like a 302 with an aftermarket intake manifold to me.

If I'm counting right, it's 6 valve cover bolts, which says it's a Windsor-family engine (almost certainly a 302 or 351W), and it has a "wet" intake manifold (coolant runs through it), which isn't true of the 335-series engines. If the lower thermostat bolt is accessible with a socket (above the water pump housing), it's a 351W; if you'd have to use a wrench to get on it, 302.

From Ford V8 Engine Identification - FORDification.com
The quickest way of differentiating between the different families of Ford engines is to simply count the valve cover bolts.
  • 2 bolts: 239/256/272/292/312 (produced from 1954 to 1964)
  • 5 bolts: 332/352/360/361/390/391/406/410/427/428 (FE engine)
  • 6 bolts: 221/260/289/302/351W
  • 7 bolts: 429/460
  • 8 bolts: 351C/351M/400
 
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Old Jun 23, 2015 | 03:57 PM
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Looks like a 302 to me.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2015 | 04:00 PM
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It's a 302 windsor. Thanks
 
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Old Jun 23, 2015 | 04:00 PM
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Hard to tell without a good downward shot to show the width of the intake but, judging by the factory add-on bracket, between the right cylinder head and the alternator, I would say it was a 351 Windsor.

I dont think 302s had this alternator mounting bracket but not 100% sure about that.

If the intake is 9 inches wide, it's a 302. If the intake is wider than 9 inches across, it's a 351W.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2015 | 04:53 PM
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It's 9 inc. The 4 barrel is made by ford says it on it. Guess someone just put it in.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2015 | 04:59 PM
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Its in a 1979 250custom 4x4. Thinking bout fixing the body rebuilding motor and reselling.

 
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The easiest way for me to tell is, 302's have the deck/head surface right on top of the waterpump bolt hole. 351's have an inch and a half of block from that surface to the waterpump bolt hole.

It's certainly a Windsor.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2015 | 05:24 PM
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I cant say for sure but up to at least 1978, 302 and 351w had exhaust manifold bolts in a straight line across the head. The bolt pattern on those heads are staggered like a 335 or 385 series. Maybe a late model type head? Really no telling since these trucks never came with a 302 or 351w from factory.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2015 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by gatorfor88
I cant say for sure but up to at least 1978, 302 and 351w had exhaust manifold bolts in a straight line across the head. The bolt pattern on those heads are staggered like a 335 or 385 series. Maybe a late model type head? Really no telling since these trucks never came with a 302 or 351w from factory.
I've got a 79 2wd with a 302 C6 from the factory.
 
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Looks like a 302 - notice the tight bend in the intake as it goes around the distributor.

Oh, wait, the OP already answered

And those exhaust bolts ARE in a straight line, it's an optical delusion.
 
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The 351W was produced in the Windsor plant but technically, the 302 isn't a "Windsor" engine. It was produced in the Cleveland plant.

The Ford 289 and 302 Engine Block
 
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Old Jun 23, 2015 | 09:21 PM
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Is there an ID code on or in the motor anywhere?
 
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Old Jun 23, 2015 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by German84
Is there an ID code on or in the motor anywhere?

You mean like something that says "this is a 302!"? No.
 
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