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Old 06-21-2016, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by scottscott
Toyota has rust problems on their Tacoma pickup frames. Supposedly if you complain enough Toyota will replace the frame.
AFAIK, Toyota never replaced a single frame.

Several years ago, Toyota bought back 10's of 1,000's of Tacoma pickups, due to the frame rusting between the cab and the bed, causing some of them to break in half.

This event was well publicized in the media. I remember seeing a pic in the LA Times of a lot with 100's of "bought back" Tacoma's parked on it.
 
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
AFAIK, Toyota never replaced a single frame.

Several years ago, Toyota bought back 10's of 1,000's of Tacoma pickups, due to the frame rusting between the cab and the bed, causing some of them to break in half.

This event was well publicized in the media. I remember seeing a pic in the LA Times of a lot with 100's of "bought back" Tacoma's parked on it.
Maybe not in sunny CA but here in Ohio Toyota is doing so many frame swaps the techs have it down to a science and knock them out quickly.
 
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Now you have me wondering about my 2001!
 
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I know 2 people with the Tacomas.1 Toyota replaced his frame it was a 4 door 4 wheel drive. the other one toyota bought it back. It was a base 2 wheel drive. Guy bought a Ranger 4x4 and loves it.
 
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2005 Frame Rust Through

Originally Posted by CougarJohn
I am sorry to have to tell you this, pal, but the truck is probably junk. The problem is not with Ford. The problem is with the NaCl that is spread on the roads of your state to liquify the ice.
Iron is iron. Salt does what it does to iron.
I've lived in salt country for 70 years and have never seen it this bad and I know a little bit about chemistry since I used to teach it. My other trucks (or cars for that matter) never had frame problems like this one. They must have gotten hold of some contaminated steel in the manufacturing of the frame that accelerated the the reaction. I would be surprised if Ford mfg. does not have exact records of what steel they bought when etc, and which trucks it went into. Any good mfg. line keeps that sort of data.
 
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I've lived in salt country for 70 years and have never seen it this bad and I know a little bit about chemistry since I used to teach it. My other trucks (or cars for that matter) never had frame problems like this one. They must have gotten hold of some contaminated steel in the manufacturing of the frame that accelerated the the reaction. I would be surprised if Ford mfg. does not have exact records of what steel they bought when etc, and which trucks it went into. Any good mfg. line keeps that sort of data.
Yes ford used special metal/steel. Remember it was called "quiet steel"
 
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Sure, the new F-150's aluminum body might resist corrosion better than a steel body, but when you see this you have to admit it really doesn't matter much.

I think the wax-based undercoating protects the frame better than paint does.
 
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Yes ford used special metal/steel. Remember it was called "quiet steel"
Yes, I can believe it. It quietly slipped away on me when I wasn't looking.
 
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
AFAIK, Toyota never replaced a single frame.

Several years ago, Toyota bought back 10's of 1,000's of Tacoma pickups, due to the frame rusting between the cab and the bed, causing some of them to break in half.

This event was well publicized in the media. I remember seeing a pic in the LA Times of a lot with 100's of "bought back" Tacoma's parked on it.
You are misinformed. Toyota has replaced many, many frames. My mt. bike buddy was a mechanic at one of the local Toyota dealerships and he said it would take a technician about 10 hours once they got good at it. This was well under the book time and the technicians got paid well for it. My buddy would do my alignments for me after hours and I would see trucks in the process of a frame replacement, so I know it happens.
 
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... I live in northern Vermont where salt is used but I have never garaged the truck just so the heat of a garage would not accelerate any chemical reaction.
What was the surface where you parked? I know that parking on grass or weeds will cause problems due to the ground moister.
 
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I gave up on the 2005 frame repair

Originally Posted by srgntrbt
I was surprised a couple of weeks ago when a local garage mechanic told me the frame of my 2005 F150 (41,000 miles) was rusted through on the bottom and would not pass inspection. I purchased it new in December of 2005, year end deal. The rest of the body is in pretty good shape. I live in northern Vermont where salt is used but I have never garaged the truck just so the heat of a garage would not accelerate any chemical reaction. I expected the sheet metal body to rust through long before any part of the frame. I know of plenty of Model A's that still have solid frames even after 80 plus years.

The local dealer has told me sorry, out of warranty, and that it is unsafe to drive. I have to foot the bill for any repair... so until I repair it my truck has gone from its book value to zero just like that. I was hoping to keep it a few more years.

I have filed a complaint with the NTSB and checked for any recalls. As I read over the 5 year warranty they specifically mention "rust through on the body". According to them the frame is part of the body, I thought it was the supporting structure of body and other mechanical parts.
What recourse if any do I have with Ford?
It does not appear to fit within the Vermont Lemon Law guidelines.
Any suggestions or further information would be much appreciated.
Well folks, being the original poster here is my latest update almost a year & half later. This past summer I had the passenger side frame welded and then this early October found another big hole in the frame on the drivers side just in front of where the "jack" is to be placed so had that welded. I have now traded it for a used 2012 truck waiting for the next Ranger or Bronco to come out.
 
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I had my truck rustproofed I have to take it in every year for touch up,TST puts a good warranty on there product.I had it done through Line-X.i dont know what the new stuff they are using in the winter some one said its beat juice and mallasis. I know that my Focus in the last 3 years started to rust badly.
 
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Good idea. Hind sight is 20/20. My brother purchased a 2016 early this fall so I looked at the frame and was amazed how thin the metal is.... so some sort of undercoating and washing the underside frequently will certainly delay the inevitable rust that we have up north. Best of luck! I hate to say it but I went over to the dark side on my trade because it was cheap, I'm retired, don't put much mileage on my truck so in my mind could not justify $30 - $50k for a brand new beast. The good news is even though my new 2nd hand truck is 7 years newer my insurance dropped by $50 a year. :-)
 
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
AFAIK, Toyota never replaced a single frame.

Several years ago, Toyota bought back 10's of 1,000's of Tacoma pickups, due to the frame rusting between the cab and the bed, causing some of them to break in half.

This event was well publicized in the media. I remember seeing a pic in the LA Times of a lot with 100's of "bought back" Tacoma's parked on it.
Beg to disagree, work with a guy that had his Sequa frame replaced by Toyota.
 


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