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Old Jun 11, 2015 | 08:34 PM
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Electrical Snafu Part2




Is this for a 2 wire set up or a 1 wire?

I've got a 262Y engine which I think has been converted to an alternator. Part number on alternator is 40A E1ZF DA. The current wiring has alternator and voltage regulator VR. Alternator has 2 posts 1 labeled GRD ground and 1 labeled BAT battery. Currently GRD has wire going to A terminal on VR. BAT terminal has 2 wires attached one going to I terminal on VR on going to + side of solenoid. Is that the proper connections?
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Old Jun 12, 2015 | 08:38 AM
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No that is not correct. That is a standard 3 wire Ford alternator. It has a BAT, STA, FLD, and they don't count the GRD terminal for some reason. In your picture the terminal with the red insulator is the battery +, the insulated terminal below that is the field, the upper left insulated is the stator, the uninsulated in the lower right is the ground. The regulator needs a switched 12v source connected to the I terminal, the alternator BAT and regulator A need to both connect to the starter solenoid positive cable side(this is the charge wire from the alternator, make sure it is at least 10 gauge), the alt FLD is connected to the regulator's F terminal, the STA terminal is connected to the regulator's S connector.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2015 | 09:09 AM
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Thanks Putt your a great help. That makes it a lot clearer. I read on some post that you can do an accessory ground from the ground on the alternator to the mounting bolt of the regulator to make sure there is a good ground in the charging system. Is that a good idea? I saw another wiring diagram saying ground should go back to - battery post. Is it the BAT to solenoid or A to solenoid that need to be 10g?
 

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Old Jun 12, 2015 | 09:15 AM
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Yes, that is fine, but a lot of the original hookups did not have an extra ground hooked up, they were grounded through the mounting brackets. You do need to make sure there is a ground from the battery to the engine block, I always ground the block with the battery cable, then run another 8 or 10 gauge wire to the frame.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2015 | 10:04 AM
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I'm told my truck was originally equipped with a generator so what I'm working on is someone else's cobb job. Would the 12v to the I terminal come directly from the key switch?
 
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Old Jun 12, 2015 | 02:26 PM
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Yes, that is what is normally used, make sure you don't tap into the ignition power! It is only an exciter for the regulator, so very little current at all.
 
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Originally Posted by Redworks
Is this for a 2 wire set up or a 1 wire?

I've got a 262Y engine which I think has been converted to an alternator.
262 is an inline I-6, it's not a Y block V8. 1961/64 FoMoCo vehicles (except 1963/64 Thunderbirds) came w/a generator as standard equipment.

1963/64 Thunderbirds and 1965 and later FoMoCo vehicles came with alternators as standard equipment.

ID engineering number prefix-suffix and amperage on alternator is 40A E1ZF DA
No part number marked on parts after 1956, only casting or ID engineering numbers if applicable.

The following is not a one wire alternator.

E1ZZ-10346-A (replaced D9ZZ-10346-A) .. 40 Amp Alternator / Marked: D9ZF-10300-AA or E1ZF-10300-AA or BA or CA or DA (Motorcraft GL-204-A).

1979/81 Mustang/Capri/Fairmont/Zephyr & 1981 Escort/Lynx / Ditto 1982/83 without A/C.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2015 | 09:09 AM
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Numbers Dummy you are so right. Not a straight 6 I got that info from previous owner and door number plate (both wrong) and I didn't know what a 262 meant.

Putt got met straight that it is a 3 wire set up. When I pulled it to have it bench tested I saw that its a motorcraft. Parts guy tested if using reman # 7078A with a 60 amp output which it passed. I don't know does that make it a 60 amp alt. My final step is new wires to F & S terminals. Only question is what wire gauge those wire to voltage regulator should be from alt to VR.
Thanks for assistance.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2015 | 10:36 AM
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The wires for the S and F terminals only need to be 16 gauge, very little current in them, actually I think the OE wires are only 18 ga. You can buy a new factory type connector for the voltage regulator at most parts stores.
 
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Success

With the FTE's support I've gotten the alternator working. Thanks for all the help.
 
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That's great!!
 
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im going through this now, alternator tested good at 14.78, new VR, i took the tape off the VR wires to the ALT, they are all good and go to the correct terminals on the ALT. BAT wire and A wire on the VR go to the pos side of the solenoid, ground wire from VR goes to the ground post on the ALT then to the block along with the NEG battery cable. VR I terminal has power with the key on, im still only getting 12.6 volts at the battery?
 
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Found my problem, yet another Autozone electrical part fails in one day!
 
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