Heed help. Overheated.
Other state now. Small town. Apparently I have a cooling system Problem for sure. Is there anyway to assess or ballpark the damage to engine by what I posted? Did I get lucky? The truck did crank and ran smoothly with me giving it has but idling it would run smoothly and then a little rough as if it wasn't getting much gas then run smooth again. The first crank low oil pressure light came on. Subsequent cranks no problems were showing. Any ideas what I could be looking at? I mean if it's running the damage couldn't be THAT bad could it? Any help. Yes if I had known I would pay a tow bill anyway I would have stopped it awhile
Back. That's why hindsight is 20/20.
It definitely wasn't smart to let it overheat, but I can understand the situation. The fact that it still runs is a good sign it didn't get too bad, hopefully.
To see how bad the overheat was, pull your oil filter and see if the plastic standpipe that the filter slides over has melted any.
Next, after refilling the coolant, try a head gasket test. What you do is hook up a pressure guage to the top hose that goes to your begas bottle (the little resevior) and see how fast your pressure rises under load. If it goes up fast under load, you could have a somewhat painful repair on your hands. If it isn't able to build much pressure, you need a new degas bottle cap (commonly known as the coolant cap) and the whole fix is just the coolant + a $12 cap. I Hope this is your culprit.
Another possible culprit could be a bad EGR cooler, which is almost always the direct result of a bad oil cooler. This repair isn't quite as painful as head gaskets, but still isn't fun. The easiest way to diagnose EGR cooler is to get the coolant level where it should be and then park the truck with the front facing downhill. After leaving it parked overnight facing downhill, pull the EGR valve and see if there's coolant that has leaked into it.
If the problem is the EGR cooler, replace BOTH the EGR cooler AND the oil cooler. The ford oil cooler is the best option currently, as they have updated them to not clog as easily. STAY AWAY FROM THE DORMAN OIL COOLER. big problems with those. As far as the EGR cooler, many like to put an EGR delete in there, but if you want to stay emissions legal, get a bulletproof EGR cooler. They have a much more robust design and I have yet to hear about one failing.
If the problem is head gaskets, try to find a reputable diesel repair shop and try to avoid the ford dealership. Ford mechanics usually don't get the heads resurfaced, which is often crucial for avoiding repeat repairs. Also, have whoever fixes it use head studs, instead of either replacing, or worse, reusing the stock head bolts. Most around here, including myself, use ARP head studs with good results. If you get the heads resurfaced and use ARP studs, you won't have any more head gasket failure risks in your future.
here's a video showing the head gasket test:
Good luck and I hope it all works out for you.
Replaced. I checked the oil by way of dipstick and it doesn't look milky. I just tested it around the park it ran fine got it in highway and ran fine. The only issue I'm seeing now is during idle.. It'll run smooth and then rough as if running out of gas then smooth again. its sporadic. But if you keep foot on pedal and give small gas it's smooth again. Granted it's still going to mechanic when we get back. Just any other ideas of what we looking at besides the cooling system check? Does engine sound like it's ok?
Around the park here and then drove it up to the
Obstruction of air flow thru the radiator and water flow thru the radiator are also a possibility.
Replaced. I checked the oil by way of dipstick and it doesn't look milky. I just tested it around the park it ran fine got it in highway and ran fine. The only issue I'm seeing now is during idle.. It'll run smooth and then rough as if running out of gas then smooth again. its sporadic. But if you keep foot on pedal and give small gas it's smooth again. Granted it's still going to mechanic when we get back. Just any other ideas of what we looking at besides the cooling system check? Does engine sound like it's ok?
Around the park here and then drove it up to the
Replaced. I checked the oil by way of dipstick and it doesn't look milky. I just tested it around the park it ran fine got it in highway and ran fine. The only issue I'm seeing now is during idle.. It'll run smooth and then rough as if running out of gas then smooth again. its sporadic. But if you keep foot on pedal and give small gas it's smooth again. Granted it's still going to mechanic when we get back. Just any other ideas of what we looking at besides the cooling system check? Does engine sound like it's ok?
Around the park here and then drove it up to the
today as matter of fact was heading up over the pass watching my temps, have been noticing an occasional temp spike at odd, random load and non load, running and or idling times. today we were ripping right along at my typical 186* + and it shot up to 254* and shut down.. totally shut down. Retained all my fluids, no blow off or boil over. let it sit. 1/2 hr later external temps at 57* my truck was temp down to 180's. called the wknd trip off, ran it back home and on way home it ran cooler than normal at 180*. as typical... baffled with this truck
Not to steal your thunder Traisc... feel your pain.
I am hoping mine is possibly a temp control sending unit??
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If it was, and looking at the remains appears to have been, it melted and is now down inside the engine clogging passages up as it went. Glad you made it home safe, unfortunately your engine didn't do as well.
At this point, finding a used engine with some kind of warranty doesn't look like a bad option to consider. The other option would be rolling the dice and having this engine gone through and hope it is worth repairing. Best case scenario, the melted plastic stopped at the screens or somewhere non-critical, or even just barely melted and stopped right under the filter assembly and the loss of coolant is simply a leak somewhere. Worst case scenario, the passageways are at least partially plugged and the engine is a timebomb, on top of having failed head gaskets and/or bad EGR cooler.
You could roll the dice on having that engine taken apart and hope for the best, but chances are the repairs would cost more than the engine is worth, especially after it has seen that kind of heat.
If I were in your situation, I would save the money of tearing down that engine and go straight to looking at some used engines, preferably with some kind of warranty.
I don't mean to be the bearer of bad news...but that melted standpipe is bad news.











