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Old Dec 10, 2016 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
There's no such thing as a specific 351W/AOD flexplate for 1981/89 F150/350, Bronco & Econoline.
Maybe not but there is a very specific flexplate for use between a 351 and AOD.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2016 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Conanski
Maybe not but there is a very specific flexplate for use between a 351 and AOD.
1980/89 truck parts catalog sez: D1ZZ-6375-A .. Flywheel (flexplate).

1980 Econoline 351W 2V C6 (ditto 1975/79) / 1981 Econoline 351W 2V C6 except CA / 1982/86 F150/350, Bronco & Econoline 351W 2V all A/T

1984/89 F150/350, Bronco & Econoline 351W 4V & EFI all A/T

And, since this is a 1971 (D1ZZ) part number, it was used in myriad 1971/79 351W cars, none of which came with AOD until 1980.

It's also listed for 1979/80 cars with 302/C6.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2016 | 05:15 PM
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You have to forget the model or year thing as Bill pointed out 1980 351/AOD never was and does not help.
I don't know the years/models this all works out with out looking over Bills post and to say I don't really care as I am not into this swap.


We know the EDO did not come out in the trucks till later years than what some want them in. Kind of the same fro the 351 if I follow this right.


We do know you cant use a 302 plate with the ADO with out issues.
So the person doing the swap would need to know what year/models (cars or trucks) the 351/ADO came in (thanks Bill) and find a plate for that setup to use in your swap.


Not hard in my book based on Bills information if I read it right.
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Old Dec 10, 2016 | 05:38 PM
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AOD introduced in 1980 Passenger Cars. AOD introduced in 1981 F100/250, Bronco & E100/250.

351W introduced in 1969 Ford/Merc Passenger Cars / 1975 Econoline / 1980 Lincoln/Continental Mark VI / 1981 F150/350 & Bronco.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2016 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
There's no such thing as a specific 351W/AOD flexplate for 1981/89 F150/350, Bronco & Econoline. AOD introduced in 1981 in these vehicles

1980/89 LTD/Crown Vic/Town Car use a specific 351W/AOD flexplate as does the 302 in all these vehicles. AOD introduced in 1980 Passenger Cars.
Originally Posted by NumberDummy
AOD introduced in 1980 Passenger Cars. AOD introduced in 1981 F100/250, Bronco & E100/250.

351W introduced in 1969 Ford/Merc Passenger Cars / 1975 Econoline / 1980 Lincoln/Continental Mark VI / 1981 F150/350 & Bronco.
What we needed to know was "1980/89 LTD/Crown Vic/Town Car use a specific 351W/AOD flexplate" when matting a 351 to a ADO in a "1981/89 F150/350, Bronco & Econoline" if I read your posts right.
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Old Dec 10, 2016 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by FuzzFace2
What we needed to know was "1980/89 LTD/Crown Vic/Town Car use a specific 351W/AOD flexplate" when matting a 351 to a AOD in a "1981/89 F150/350, Bronco & Econoline" if I read your posts right.
EOAZ-6375-A .. Flywheel (Flexplate) / Obsolete

1980 LTD/Grand Marquis/Town Car/Mark VI 351W except C6 / 1981/89 LTD (name changed to Crown Victoria in 1983)/Grand Marquis/Town Car 351W .. parts catalog doesn't mention the trans type.

1980 all Passenger Cars 302 C4/FMX/AOD / 1980 F100 302/C4

1981 E100/250 351W 2V C6 CA only / 1981 F100/350 & Bronco 351W 2V C6.

Also see post #6 for the D1ZZ-6375-A applications.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2016 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by bremen242
now that i remember, late 80s cop cars had 351w and AODs, and they were carburated, with kickdown cables.

doesn't help you now.
Post #6 above

Originally Posted by NumberDummy
There's no such thing as a specific 351W/AOD flexplate for 1981/89 F150/350, Bronco & Econoline. AOD introduced in 1981 in these vehicles

1980/89 LTD/Crown Vic/Town Car use a specific 351W/AOD flexplate as does the 302 in all these vehicles. AOD introduced in 1980 Passenger Cars.
So where did this come from in your post or was that a back up of post #6?
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Old Dec 10, 2016 | 06:54 PM
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Flex plate aside, OP needs to school up on the TV cable or linkage. It is NOT a kick down linkage and your trans is going to burn up pronto without a proper adjustment. Don't drive it again until you sort this part out. With the driving you've done you've already assigned it to an early death.

http://news.compperformance.com/Instructions/431000.pdf

The January '17 Hot Rod magazine has a fix-it article on an AOD in a '67 Mustang. Lots of pics, and they show how the cable travel was fubar'd, along with the usual go around, and in the end they made it shift right.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2016 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by FuzzFace2

So where did this come from in your post or was that a back up of post #6?
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I listed the F100/350, Bronco & Econoline D1ZZ-6375-A flexplate originally (post #17), then you asked for the car AOD applications, which I listed in post #21.

Reference to post #6 was a typo. Post #15 was my first post in this thread.

The OP said he installed a 351W in a 1984 F150, but made no mention of what vehicle the 351W came from.

When you consider how long the 351W has been around, it could have come from anything.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2016 | 07:06 PM
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Ok maybe I am reading it all wrong?
post #6 is late 80's cop cars with 351 & AOD


Then you list D1AA-6375-A for post 6 but list F100/350, Bronco & Econoline flexplate for that part number. Was the Bronco & Econ a 351/AOD?


Yes I did ask about the cars only because you listed 1980/89 LTD/Crown Vic/Town Car use a specific 351W/AOD flexplate but came back with non that were 351/AOD list. You did say the book did not say what auto it used so?


So is D1AA-6375-A used with a 351/AOD and if not what plate is from a cop car is?
I do thank you for the help in tracking this down.
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Old Dec 10, 2016 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by FuzzFace2
Ok maybe I am reading it all wrong?
post #6 is late 80's cop cars with 351 & AOD


Then you list D1ZZ-6375-A for post 17 but list F100/350, Bronco & Econoline flexplate for that part number. Was the Bronco & Econ a 351/AOD?


Yes I did ask about the cars only because you listed 1980/89 LTD/Crown Vic/Town Car use a specific 351W/AOD flexplate but came back with non that were 351/AOD list. You did say the book did not say what auto it used so?


So is D1ZZ-6375-A used with a 351/AOD and if not what plate is from a cop car is?
Forget post 6, that was a typo.

I never said anything about cop cars (police cruisers), as the catalog makes no mention of them.

I listed the D1ZZ-6375-A applications (post 17) and the EOAZ-6375-A applications (post 21) which the catalog says 1980 cars except C6 then fails to mention which A/T for 1981/89 351W cars.

So I went and looked at the applications for 1981/89 LTD/Crown Victoria 351W .. all came with the AOD

1980 is a mess, some of the above cars with 302 came with C4 or FMX or AOD. With a 351W, could have a C6 or FMX or AOD. Only the 1980 Town Car/Mark VI 302/351W came with AOD only.

Mr. Clean (ctubutis), the Oklahoma Kid (Gary Lewis) and I have the 1980/89 light truck parts catalog, why don't the rest of y'all?

2 finger typing all this crap is a pain in the backside.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2016 | 07:28 PM
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EOAZ-6375-A applications (post 21) which the catalog says 1980 cars except C6 then fails to mention which A/T for 1981/89 351W cars.

So I went and looked at the applications for 1981/89 LTD/Crown Victoria 351W .. all came with the AOD
WOW they (me) don't make it easy. So if I got this right the EOAZ would cross over to the 1981/89 LTD/Crown Victoria 351W & AOD
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Old Dec 10, 2016 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by FuzzFace2
WOW they (me) don't make it easy. So if I got this right the EOAZ would cross over to the 1981/89 LTD/Crown Victoria 351W & AOD
But it was also used in other non AOD applications.
But there's one problemo: The OP never mentioned a single word inre to what the 351W came from.

Did it come from a 1969/89 car, or a 1975/80 Econoline, or a 1981/96 F150/350/Bronco/Econoline or a 1997 F250 H/D/F350?

Since we don't know, there shouldn't any speculation on which flexplate is supposed to be installed.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2016 | 08:12 PM
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Oh I got this one........... because of the fly wheel balance for the year 351 motor used.
Man what a messed up way to make motors, switch the balance weight between years of the same size CI motor.


You know after thinking this over if he has a fly wheel that is the right balance that the starter works with and the converter bolts up to it might be best to use spacers between converter & fly wheel so the converter stays inserted in the pump.


IIRC with the converter fully seated in the pump, trany bolted to the motor the converter should only pull up to the fly wheel about 1/8".


Thanks Bill for the lesson
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Old Jan 9, 2017 | 01:26 AM
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Not to hijack this conversation,


I just (today) bought my first Ford ever, 1985 F-150 with a 351W. It has a C6 and I would like to swap to an AOD. I don't anticipate ever beefing up the motor anything beyond some mild upgrades (heads at the most? doubtful though). might do the edelbrock carb efi conversion, but I head good things about the carbs on these motors. I'm mostly after fuel economy and it sounds like picking up the OD is the single biggest benefit.


Would I need to swap my flexplate for an AOD since I am starting with a 351W? I assume I will need a different torque converter too. Can I pull an AOD out of an 85-91 F-250 and just bolt it in my F-150, or will I need further modification such as to the driveshaft? Things like different brackets or cables, while I need to know about, are a minor concern. Mounts, subframes/brackets, and driveshafts are the big concern.


Thanks in advance
 
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