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Old Apr 23, 2015 | 05:44 PM
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cold idle speed

OK so I'm having trouble with the idle speed on my 79 f150 with a 460. when i first start the engine when its cold and let off of the gas pedal it dies out but if i keep my foot on the pedal just a little bit it'll stay running then when it warms up i can let off of the pedal and it will idle just fine. what could my problem be??????? i read somewhere that it could be a bad accelerator pump. if it helps any I'm running a holley 4180 4bbl carb. oh and i do have teeny tiny gas leak looks like from around the front my carb between the throttle body and the intake manifold
 
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Old Apr 24, 2015 | 02:29 PM
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Accelerator pump only has to do with throttle transients, not idle.

Cold idle is a function of the choke adjustment and the cold idle adjustment - that's where you should start. The instructions for Holley's rebuild kit include adjustment instructions - you should be able to find them online.

Fuel leak is a problem though ... might be the o-ring on your idle mixture control adjustments or something like that if it's coming from the front bottom. Or that could be at the accelerator pump and running down. A rebuild kit would include all the relevant O-rings, gaskets, etc.
 
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Old Apr 24, 2015 | 02:49 PM
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Fuel leak is a problem though ... might be the o-ring on your idle mixture control adjustments or something like that if it's coming from the front bottom. Or that could be at the accelerator pump and running down. A rebuild kit would include all the relevant O-rings, gaskets, etc.
the problem is the all of the research that i've done on this model of holley says that unless your a qualified mechanic then the home mechanic cant do the adjustments him/her self with out some mods the carb its self... i have looked and the adjustment screws are covered up as far as i can see. would it just be easier to cough up about 450 bucks and get a rebuilt holley from O'Reillys?
 
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Idle mixture adjustments were covered with hardened plugs on these, and need to be drilled out to rebuild/adjust that, but if the anti-tamper plugs are in place, your problem is likely elsewhere - those are press-fit and I don't think fuel would leak around them even if your O-rings were starting to go.

The choke adjustment and cold idle speed adjustment aren't a function of idle mixture, so you don't need to worry about the anti-tamper plugs there either - those adjustments are entirely accessible.
 
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http://documents.holley.com/199r10060rev.pdf
 
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Idle mixture adjustments were covered with hardened plugs on these, and need to be drilled out to rebuild/adjust that, but if the anti-tamper plugs are in place, your problem is likely elsewhere - those are press-fit and I don't think fuel would leak around them even if your O-rings were starting to go.

The choke adjustment and cold idle speed adjustment aren't a function of idle mixture, so you don't need to worry about the anti-tamper plugs there either - those adjustments are entirely accessible.
so how hard is it to drill out the plugs?
 
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They're hardened steel ... if you go through the plugs with an easy-out, as the instructions suggest, you're likely to fail. Most people drill a hole in the casting just behind the plug and push it out from the back. If you search online for how to drill out the plugs on a 4180, you'll find some pictures.
 
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