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Old Apr 16, 2015 | 01:26 AM
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Pickups were commercial and farm vehicles generally until the mid 70's when they were given more creature comforts like PS, auto's, wheel packages, etc. 4wd was for a single purpose of getting in and out of the jobsite, and not for play time. Just a part of those times. Plus 4WD was $1000-1500 extra so a lot of people didn't see a need to spend the extra cash.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2015 | 08:26 AM
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Pickups were commercial and farm vehicles generally until the mid 70's when they were given more creature comforts like PS, auto's, wheel packages, etc. 4wd was for a single purpose of getting in and out of the jobsite, and not for play time. Just a part of those times. Plus 4WD was $1000-1500 extra so a lot of people didn't see a need to spend the extra cash.
Absolutely right. I wanted a bumpside 4WD because I learned to drive a stick when I was 16 and working at a saw mill in Northern Quebec, and they handed me the keys to a '70 F100 4WD and sent me off on an errand to one of the logging sites. I didn't tell them that I didn't know how to drive a stick and figured it out.

In the bush and on those logging roads 4WD was a requirement.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2015 | 08:56 AM
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2X on that Yellow, they were 'Old School' for sure. One of the most popular forums on the bumpside, is the power steering conversion. Fordification lists the F250 frame, for the '67-'72's as having the strongest frame of any truck, previous or subsequent, for all makes of truck. Engineering specs don't lie. They were built in the days before the computer could tell the engineers just how thin they could make it, to save metal. Slide rules worked, but most could not work them.
Besides being sturdy, they were popular with ranchers, loggers, & farmers, as well as utilities for power line crews. Mostly for their durability, not comfort. The 'Big Wheel' set had not been invented yet. People just drove a truck, and wanted a 67 Mustang fastback for profile. Trucks were 'Country', Mustangs were cool.

Search the countryside, you'll fine one..

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Old Apr 16, 2015 | 09:08 AM
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Yup, tough but not convenient. Have to back the truck up to get it out of 4WD, and you can't drive in 4WD on pavement without it bucking like a drunk horse.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2015 | 09:34 AM
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That's right Yellow, they were crude, and tough, but just what was needed for off the road, or unimproved roads required. Mine is a '67 F250 with the Dana 44 HD front end. It has the 12 bolt closed knuckles, and a 3500# rating, with the big locking hubs. I don't have the numbers, but I think that there were not a lot of them made, as most F250's I see, have the 3000# front end. Mine also has the 300 IL 6, the NP 435 four speed stick, and the Dana 24 transfer. All heavy duty cast steel casings, no aluminum. Just a truck man, the whole truck, and nothing but a truck. Its old, but what the hell, Wonder Woman just turned 70..

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Old Apr 16, 2015 | 09:37 AM
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Mine is just an F100, not has heavy a frame.

According to Fordification there were 3,836 F250 Styleside 4WDs made in 1967.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2015 | 10:44 AM
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I bought mine in '69, from a friend's neighbor, and it still has the nick name "Ol Ralph", as a name sake for the old Vet I got it from. I had it in Northern Ca. for long time, and it mudded its way over many a mile of logging road. I eventually added a big, power take off driven winch, behind the cab, flat bed, and a set of booms for the winch. It has hauled many a log to the mill. Some years ago, I semi-retired, and bought a place in Baja, Mx. Of course, 'Ol Ralph went with us. His primary job became the launching and retrieving of my boat, over the beach and into the surf. The winch sure was handy.
Recently, the new marina opened a launch ramp, so the over-the-sand launching is not necessary any more. 'Ol Ralph became semi-retired too. This gave me the opportunity to do a cab-off, frame-up restoration of the entire truck. I called it my "Civilizing Ralph" project, and after 4 years of work in progress, 'Ol Ralph is finally as civilized as he's going to get. Power steering, is my favorite addition. I retained the winch and winch gantry, just in case the launch ramp ever becomes defunct.
Clifford performance helped revitalize the old 300 six, with what can only be compared to a Heart Transplant with Viagra for blood. Va Va-rooom...
The flat bed has been replaced with a factory bed, from a '70 donor. One old friend wrote me that 'Ol Ralph, is now dressing in drag, he's so good looking. My wife has begun calling him my mistress, and I tell her "Don't go there"...

Old trucks, kept alive, are a good thing

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Old Apr 16, 2015 | 10:48 AM
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My apologies to the OP, this thread has been thoroughly hijacked.

Baja - what was done to the 300, and do you have any dyno results?
 
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Old Apr 16, 2015 | 10:59 AM
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No dino results on my motor, but I followed Clifford's suggestions, with an aluminum intake, 4 bbl Holley, Clifford's RV cam, lifters, push rods, springs, valves, retainers, and head work, with rails ported & polished, and 0.060 milled off the head. Oh, and Clifford's headers too, with 2.5" split exhaust, into a 3" Magflow muffler.

My apologies too, with the hopes that the OP can benefit from our experiences. Keep an old truck alive, its a good thing

Baja

ps; New timing gears too, steel & aluminum, replacing the fiber gears.
 

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Old Apr 16, 2015 | 06:29 PM
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Oh keep it going. I'm new to these older trucks so I'm constantly getting yelled at by my wife cause I spend so much time reading and researching. Lol
 
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Old Apr 16, 2015 | 07:00 PM
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I am well versed on the attention these old trucks can require. My wife calls mine my mistress, and I tell her, "Don't go there".. She's right though, as for the past 4 years, my old truck has taken many days, well into the night, leaving her sometimes alone, with dinner getting cold. Not often, but enough for me to regret letting it happen, even once. My advice, is listen to your wife. You sound young, and you have the rest of your life to mess with old trucks. Give it some time, but I caution becoming obsessed with it. Take it from a geezer, who has obsessed for the past 4 years. Bring her coffee in bed every morning, and flowers once a week at least. She will love you for the little things..

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Old Apr 16, 2015 | 07:24 PM
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All my time so far has been on the phone reading. I haven't purchased one yet. I'm going to look at one on Saturday that Hopefully won't be too trashed. She is a good woman and understands why I do it.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2015 | 08:23 PM
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Ok so the guy Who s truck I'm looking into buying text me and said the the block has a 352 stamped on it. I was questioning him on whether it was a 390 or a 360 because in the add description he said it was a 390 but in the specs he listed it as a 5.9L which is a 360. He swore it was a 390. Then I got the text saying there was a 352 stamped in the block. What does the 352 mean?
 
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Old Apr 16, 2015 | 10:14 PM
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352 started as the just being for the 352 engine block, then the fe block caught on as a torque & power monster when it was bored it became a 360.Then it got a 3.78 stroke it became a 390 so you see it's just a block casting #'s don't designate anything as for the engines displacement in cubic inches. You must check bore stroke.
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Old Apr 17, 2015 | 12:07 AM
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Actually, I'm pretty sure the 390 came before the 360. But that is aside the point. Assume it is a 360 and require proof it is a 390. Lots of threads on how to tell, so I won't repeat it here.
 
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