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Old Apr 11, 2015 | 07:17 PM
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better headlights ?

1988 E 250 Econoline

It has regular sealed beams ....anything better ?
 
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Old Apr 11, 2015 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by BigDan1
1988 E 250 Econoline

It has regular sealed beams ....anything better ?
Google Hella German made Halogen H-4s (technically illegal for highway use)...........So bright that people with HID and LED's think you have your hi-beams on.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2015 | 11:50 PM
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+1 ^^ I've used the H4 type "sealed beam replacement lights" off and on for nearly 40 years, both Cibie and Hella brands, in many vehicles.
They much brighter but also have a more defined light pattern, sometimes called "Z-beams".
IMHO - As long as they are properly aimed (and you are not using the actual high beams inappropriately), I don't think that you will have issues with bothering other drivers.
I currently have H4s in both my Tiger and the T-bird (the 2 trucks both have the "composite" lights.. with Silverstar Ultras).
 
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Old Apr 12, 2015 | 02:15 AM
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All my cars have glass lens H4 lights with the 'E code' euro spec lens and reflectors.

India and china make clones of the hellas. I have a pair of India made lights (Autopal) in my van. Not as good as the Hellas in my VW, but better than the stock sealed beams.

This listing is the wrong size housing tho':

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TOYOTA-VOLKSWAGEN-7X6-H4-WHITE-HALO-SEALED-BEAM-HEADLIGHTS-HEAD-LAMPS-CHROME-/150919415058?hash=item23237f8512&vxp=mtr

You want Euro ' E code' lights. City lights are a euro thing and a good sign it's an 'E code' light. Though not all E codes have the little city lights in them. The Autopal lights in this listing don't have the city lights, but are E codes.

Zoom in on light in the above listing, you can see the E11 code on the lens in lower LH corner in a small circle, signifies euro compliance. US lights say DOT, signifies inferior light.
You can also see the line on the lens that runs from the center to the lower right. That defines the euro pattern. The crystal lens headlights have that line formed into the reflector.

I think these have the e code reflector pattern, but no cert stamp on the lens. Blingy tho'

http://www.ebay.com/itm/7x6-Crystal-Clear-Glass-Metal-Halogen-White-LED-Halo-Headlight-Light-Bulb-PAIR-/251885151691?hash=item3aa58665cb&vxp=mtr

And they make all kind of HID conversion kits for the H4 bulbs.

But most of these clone lights have DOT spec lens and reflectors. Shop NOT for DOT!

Hit a VW, BMW or wiki site for info & history of the e codes.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2015 | 03:36 AM
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The Hella H4 E-code lights are very good, I had them in my van with the Osram NightBreaker bulbs and was very pleased. Being in Germany I had to convert to E-code anyway, DOT is not road legal here.
They sell for around 40 bucks each here.
Couple of weeks ago I switched to E-coded TruckLite LED headlights and love them



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What you describe as "city lights" is the European parking/position light. It has to be white, no amber allowed for parking/position.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2015 | 06:12 AM
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thanks a lot guys ,

On my westfalia I switched from amber position lights to european clear lights
 
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Old Apr 12, 2015 | 12:43 PM
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The Hella E-code H-4s are incredible..........even by today's standards.
And not obnoxious to on-coming drivers like some LEDs and HIDs.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2015 | 08:38 PM
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Anyone know of some brighter round style lights for a '75 e150?
 
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Old Apr 12, 2015 | 08:40 PM
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Anyone know of some brighter round style lights for a '75 e150?
Hella makes them in that size too.........just as bright.
 
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Old Apr 13, 2015 | 02:40 PM
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Got mine for my 1996 bus from Susquehanna Motorsports. They are great!
 
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Old Jan 2, 2016 | 08:36 PM
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I'm having a hard time finding the right round bulbs. It would be for a 75 e150.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2016 | 11:07 PM
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E codes from India

Some on ebay now...

H6024 Pair 7" Head Light Housing Round Glass Conversion Lamp Set | eBay

you can see the E in a circle on the lens. Euro approved.

I have 7"x6" lights from the same company with the smooth lenses and faceted reflectors. I think the old style lenses probably do a better job focusing the light pattern. Mine have been working fine for 3 years or so, though the rubber boots on the back dried up and cracked pretty quickly.

Oh, and you'll have to read up on how to aim them. Regular US garages can't do with their standard DOT machine.
Park 25' from a wall on level ground. measure from ground to ctr of head light. put a mark on the wall 2 or 2.5" below that and aim the headlights there (aim point is where the horizontal and angled beam shadows meet). Sight through the rear and front window to find the center of your car on the wall. If the head lights are 60" apart, each beam should be aimed 30" away from the center line.
 
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Around this neck of the woods, people who buy this crap don't bother aiming anything, nor do they learn the proper use of the dimmer switch. I'm about to start carrying a hand held spot lite to teach these morons a lesson in manners. If you can't see with normal headlights, then park it.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2016 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by baddad457
Around this neck of the woods, people who buy this crap don't bother aiming anything, nor do they learn the proper use of the dimmer switch. I'm about to start carrying a hand held spot lite to teach these morons a lesson in manners. If you can't see with normal headlights, then park it.
Real Nice!
 
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Old Jan 5, 2016 | 05:21 PM
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My Ram did sport a 42" LED lightbar for such occassions. No dim in oncoming traffic? Just flip the switch for a second, idiot x-rayed
Did I mention that a 50" LED lightbar sits on my desk awaiting mounting to the van
 
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