351 vs 460 fuel and pull ?
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HP and torque specs for both over a number of years.
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As for fuel, identically equipped, with the same transmissions and axles, I would expect the 460 to use slightly more fuel. However, the extra fuel buys extra power and an easier tow.
If you have a specific vehicle in mind, you may get folks with the same vehicles to give real examples.
You might find that a 351 stuck in a lower gear would give worse fuel economy than the easier running 460 in some vehicles.
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As for fuel, identically equipped, with the same transmissions and axles, I would expect the 460 to use slightly more fuel. However, the extra fuel buys extra power and an easier tow.
If you have a specific vehicle in mind, you may get folks with the same vehicles to give real examples.
You might find that a 351 stuck in a lower gear would give worse fuel economy than the easier running 460 in some vehicles.
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The 460 will out pull the 351 all else being equal but so it should be, in this case there is no replacement for displacement. The 460 will get 10-12mpg at best no matter the trans/axle combo or how nice you drive it, while the 351 can do mid to high teens just driving around. What do you want more.
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The 460 will out pull the 351 all else being equal but so it should be, in this case there is no replacement for displacement. The 460 will get 10-12mpg at best no matter the trans/axle combo or how nice you drive it, while the 351 can do mid to high teens just driving around. What do you want more.
So essentially a 351 is fine for a standard F250 pulling 5000 pounds and will be a better economical package for doing that over a 460 mount ?
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If you only towing occasionally but will drive the truck lots get the smaller motor, if you are towing all the time get the larger motor because you won't save any gas towing with the smaller motor and the bigger motor does a better job at it.
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Occasional towing 351W...........lots of towing, less "grocery getting" 460.
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Thanks you all, hey OLD 93 junk they were really trashing the 460 for towing on the IDI forum and said it will not pass up a gas pump and anybody who tells you they will pull loaded and get over 8 miles a gallon is basically a liar. Is this true ?
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460s are brutes for towing, but the one thing they cannot pass is a gas station, expect 8-10 mpg towing a heavy load, 10-12.5 mpg unloaded depending on gearing and driving habits.
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The old IDI is better compared to a stock 351 because that is the gas motor it resembles most in terms of HP and TQ output. The only redeaming feature of these old diesels is that they get great gas milage towing or empty but you better not be in a hurry. Until you get into a turbo diesel the best towing motor Ford made was the 460.
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The old IDI is better compared to a stock 351 because that is the gas motor it resembles most in terms of HP and TQ output. The only redeaming feature of these old diesels is that they get great gas milage towing or empty but you better not be in a hurry. Until you get into a turbo diesel the best towing motor Ford made was the 460.
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they were really trashing the 460 for towing on the IDI forum and said it will not pass up a gas pump and anybody who tells you they will pull loaded and get over 8 miles a gallon is basically a liar. Is this true ?
But there is not a non turbo IDI alive that my 460 wont show tail lights to whether its empty or 10k lb on behind.
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